Hen has blue/green poop with white chunks of tissue.

[casportpony]

FYI, Baytril *is* approved use in beef cattle in the US, but is not approved for use in poultry. Metronidazole is banned in all food animals.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Baytril link:
http://www.bayerlivestock.com/show.aspx/bl121890-baytril-100-control-qa-brochure

Should probably also say that I suggested Baytril because I suspect she has an E. Coli infection and the metronidazole is something I always give when I see yellow in their poop (blackhead). The drugs you can get at the feed store aren't usually very effective against E. coli, but Baytril definetly is. It's also cheap, easy to get and easy to give orally.

-Kathy

Edited to add:
Also used in swine. Link lists restrictions and withdrawal.

 

[casportpony]

This link shows the efficacy of several antibiotics against some bacteria:
http://www.octagon-services.co.uk/articles/poultry/gamebirds.pdf

-Kathy

 

[ozexpat]

Baytril is very closely related to ciprofloxacin. Its banned in poultry and swine for that reason.

There are several antibiotics given to aquarium fish that are banned in livestock.

I can get many antibiotics by the inj or by the kilo here in the Philippines very cheaply but I won't use them on livestock.

Because the local population is so poor, there is very little antibiotic use on humans and therefore almost no antibiotic resistance. Good old fashion amoxacillen will take care of a bacterial resp infection.

My war chest is:

Water soluable:
Dimethox
Oxytetracycline
Bacitracin
Linc/spec

Injectable
Dimethox (agrmycin)
Tylosine

I also keep
Low concentration gentamycin and penicillen for day old pigs.

Wormers
Albendazole
Febendazole
Invermectin
Droncit

Cocci
Amprolium

I do use a lot of vaccinations
Poultry
Marek's
Newcastle
Fowl Pox
Choryza

Pigs
Rhini Shield
Myco Shield
Parvo Shield
Pill Shield
CDT/Tetanus

 

[casportpony]

Baytril is approved for use in pigs:
http://www.agriview.com/briefs/live...cle_a2ea5dc0-6bd2-11e2-84b3-001a4bcf887a.html

And for beef cattle and non-lactating dairy cattle:
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle...rol-of-BRD-in-high-risk-cattle-179481851.html

-Kathy

Edited to add:

http://www.drugs.com/pro/baytril-injection.html
Baytril

100
(enrofloxacin)

100 mg/mL Antimicrobial
Injectable Solution
For Subcutaneous Use in Beef Cattle, Non-Lactating Dairy Cattle and Swine Only
Not For Use In Female Dairy Cattle 20 Months of Age or Older
Or In Calves To Be Processed For Veal

 

[casportpony]

@Tomtommom , how is your hen today?

-Kathy

 

[Tomtommom]

She still feels a bit hot. She had a couple more of the same droppings in her crate, but while I was watching her the last two poops have been brown. Looking closer at the blue/green parts it seems like it was grass.

She ate a little more crumble and drank some water throughout the night (I measure what I give her, so I can keep an eye on her intake). I have good hope that her system is getting rid of what's been bugging her. Still doesn't explain what she's been passing, but it's clearing up. I have quite a few mushrooms growing on the property, perhaps she decided they looked good. Who knows? Chickens eat anything.

I will keep y'all informed on her progress. Thanks so much for all the effort.

 

[Tomtommom]

Today I finally put her to rest.. I feel bad I waited so long, I was clinging to misguided hope she would get better. She did get 'better', her appetite came back, she seemed more lively and she enjoyed free-ranging. I feel good knowing she did some things she enjoyed her final weeks. Nights here have gotten cold and that really got to her. She was chilled to the bone in the mornings and her comb purple.

I'd been bringing her in and holding her to warm up, before putting her outside in the sun again.

Today it's really cold for our area and she just seemed to be at the end of what she could take.. so the choice wasn't hard anymore. I needed to do it.

It turns out she was severely eggbound. It must've been bothering her for months. Looking back she didn't seem 100% for a long time but that's hindsight.

To end this tread, here are the autopsy pictures. May someone else learn from my mistakes and put the poor thing out of their misery sooner should your bird have symptoms like this. I waited too long, she was wasting away.



The outside of the egg, next to her face.. the thing is twice the size of her head!






Her keelbone.... she had gotten very, VERY skinny

Her gizzard was full of undigested grass, likely an attempt to try and feel better. Like a cat eats grass to get rid of things that bother them.

The egg blocked her digestion, which is why she got so skinny. It was so big it took up the width of her abdomen.




Thank you for everyones help. I'm sad to have lost my sweet girl, but I am glad to have had her and glad I finally made the right choice albeit later than I should have.

 

[Eggcessive]

Sorry for your loss. She was an internal layer. That is evidenced by the lash eggs she laid earlier, pictured in the earlier post, and then from this last large one. She was not egg bound. I had a hen who died this year with an impacted gizzard full of sunflower hulls.

 

[Tomtommom]

Thanks for the correction. Didn't realizethere was a difference.

The more you know!