Hens in the hall

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SW France, not far from Toulouse
Good afternoon from sunny SW France. I am a new henkeeper, having bought four, four month old hens in July 2017. Husband wasn’t keen on the idea but as you will read later has been a star. French chicken keeping neighbours have been extremely helpful, they have a lot of experience and a large flock.
Warning bit of a long read!
I keep them in an Omlet cube with an attached 2 metre enclosed run. They are then let out each day in an enclosed area using a 50 metre electric powered fence. All good so far.
Now ready for the ‘ how stupid can you be bit’ I let them out each day into our large garden, usually supervised with no problems - no problems since July last year. Our elderly neighbour decided to get a new dog last autumn. Needless to say the dog entered our garden and badly attacked two of our chickens on 2nd January. The third one alerted me to the problem.
Hence hens in the hall title. Our vet did a truly amazing job and kept them for eight days; they are covered in staples and stitches. Vet felt they would survive so our view was to support them as much as we could. We knew our hall was big enough to house them; it’s too cold here at night to leave them outside as they’ve lost so much winter plumage and the garage is cold and dark. Our vet went on holiday on 13th and will return this Friday; a relief vet is currently in place.
We then brought them home on the 10th. We bought an omlet go house with a 2 metre run and borrowed a cage from the vet as they had to be kept separate. For the next ten days husband has been injecting them with antibiotics, cleaning wound with antiseptic lotion and putting a sulfureux based cream on all the wounds and new skin.
Vet said now stop antibiotics on Monday but must continue with antiseptic lotion as it’s now the only protection and the cream. We also put the two birds back into one run on Sunday which made them a lot happier.
They are picky eaters. I give them high quality organic pellets, grated emmental cheese and, in late afternoon, corn and mixed seeds. Occasionally I add chopped ham or cooked hamburger pieces, tomatoes to the cheese. This is the same diet they have had since last August. When I gave them cheese, a little chopped ham and hamburger today for the first time since the attack we were amazed at the noises they were making. They clearly liked their treat. I also gave them this afternoon some new season dandelion leaves which they liked.
The injured hens are now eating better. They get a bit ‘stir crazy’ in the run and like to be let out and one kicks up quite a racket. We now have a system where cat is locked in the room she’s sleeping in, most downstairs doors are closed so they can walk around the hall and into our kitchen. We then pick them up and put them on a large towel, on the worktop, for treatment. The worst injured hen shakes badly at first. They are fairly good, not struggling as we think the cream soothes their skin.
Questions:
1). They’ve both got very red bottoms that look very sore- it looks worse as the day goes on so husband puts lots of cream on their bums. As I quietly say to them he’s putting cream on their touche they seem calm! We don’t know what’s causing the redness, any ideas.
2). Chicken poo is usually very watery, little white, yellow and green. Sometimes brown but not very often. Our vet warned we could have some issues due to the antibiotics. Is this type of poo what you would expect.
3). Chicken with the least injuries keeps going into nesting area - I thought she would be far to stressed to want to do ‘an eggy’.
4). How can we stop them getting bored.
5). How long will it take for their feathers to appear. I suddenly realised it’s not just the cold that will be a problem. Here, in the midi Pyrenees the air is less polluted so uv damage with sunburn could be a problem!

Many thanks for your help.
 
Now sure how to answer some of your questions but I do have some suggestions for not being bored. When I have to coop up my girls I have a small plastic bottle and drain some holes in them. I put some treats in it and they kick them around to get the treats out for hours. I also hang cabbage and cucumbers and it's like tetherball. They try to peck at it as it's swinging. Quite comical. I am not sure if you are able to have a big box of sand so they can dust bath themselves. I want you they throw the sand far so it can get messy. I hope some of these ideas work!
 
Thanks lissalischicks. I’ll try to find treats games for them. Sadly, my picky four won’t eat cabbages or cucumbers, not sure why.
Sand bath is a no no from our vet. To much risk of infection. The base of their run is as follows:
Old rugs,
Plastic sheeting,
Cardboard,
Then straw.
Needless to say the cardboard is getting a hammering. I think they’ve made a few holes. I throw in some of the shops promo material to distract them
 
First, greetings and welcome to BYC! So glad you joined us. There's a wealth of info, knowledge and experience shared in the multitude of threads. Browse around and see what interesting stuff you can find. By all means post away when the desire strikes you, especially if you have questions (provide as much detail/info as possible and pictures truly help)... With all the great folks here, generally someone will respond in no time at all. Please make yourself at home!

Dogs (stray/neighbor's/yours) are the #1 killer of chickens and small livestock. So sorry you're dealing with all this. Kudos for doing all you can to save them vice just putting them down.

Remember that antibiotics kill everything, good and bad in their digestive tract. It should prove highly beneficial to get them some probios in their water and maybe some ACV (apple cider vinegar), though chickens don't nurse, so dairy isn't normally associated, some cultured yogurt will also help. Added protein to their diet such as canned fish (mackerel/tuna $$/salmon or similar) will be a great treat for them as well as add oils to the protein. You can also hard boil, and mash eggs or scramble them and add extra stuff like meds or other things once cooled before serving.

As for re-feathering, they may not actually complete that evolution until their next molt.
Add to that, they may never adequately feather over the scar tissue and areas where skin was removed. If there's any way you can hang things like CD disks, or shiny objects, they will peck at. Giving them things to climb on/roost/get off the ground will aid in their mood/healing/boredom. If you can take them outside for a bit, just to get a LITTLE sun and fresh air and the ability to peck at the ground/grass/weeds a bit will help their mood.

Wishing you the best going forward. Sorry I couldn't offer more. Hopefully others will jump in with suggestions.

Oh, if you haven't done so already, PLEASE put at least your general location in your profile. It could be very important if/when you ask for or offer help or advice. You know, climate issues and such. Old folks like me will never remember from this post. To add it, mouse hover over Account top right and a drop down will appear. Click on Personal Details and scan down. You'll see the spot for Location. Then go to the bottom and save changes.
 
One of the other issues I have is that a) the two birds who are ok think I have done something to their friends ( they were a very close group) and b) I’m not sure exactly how to integrate the injured birds back into the garden when the weather is warmer. At the moment, I’m thinking I will need to put the Omlet go unit into the garden and then gradually let the group reform.
One additional issue I forgot to mention is that the less injured hen has a broken wing. Before she would sort of fly up into the Omlet cube house, not using the ladders. Now, I think the only way will be to use the ladder. It’s still a long way off before she’ll be ready but I like to think about how she will cope!
 
I am sure your chicken with the broken wing will adjust just fine - she may heal enough to fly again, but if not she will learn to use the ladder.

My chicken coop is a concrete building and I use a window for their pop door. My husband built a small deck at the door level and a ramp on each side to get to the ground. My chickens are a dual purpose hybrid, and very heavy birds. They do not fly much - really more of a jump with wing assist. They walk single file up the ramp and then hop-flap-crash to the floor. Occasionally, a bird will walk down the ramp, but they seem to prefer to just hop. To get on the roost, they hop up about 18 inches to an assist board that I installed and then hop 18 inches to the roost board.
 
won’t eat cabbages or cucumbers
You can try anything that can hang really if the cabbage or cucumbers don't work. I've done different things.

My girls also occasionally stare at their reflection. I think my BO loves staring at herself. She will turn her head from side to side and look up and down to check herself out. It's pretty funny
 
You’re right about the refelection. We have a wine cave in the kitchen ( this is France so it’s normal!) with a glass door and a fridge and freezer with stainless steel doors and they always stop to look at themselves, walk on and then go back to the doors. I’m thinking that they’re saying to themselves “ when are my feathers going to grow back, I’m all nude”.
 

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