Heritage Large Fowl - Phase II

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Okay, I've been properly intimidated and am afraid to post anything here ... but looking for the "right" place to post it just made me more scared. So I give up ... I'm posting here.
Leslie, I hate to hear that you or anyone would be intimidated to post here. I know that the resident champions of the heritage breeds are passionate about their/our birds and want to promote and expand the populations of our favorites, but that is not going to happen if interested people, like yourself, are afraid to participate here.

I have heard several people talk about "breeder people" who are "anti-hatchery" and who are intolerant of people who do not raise pure bred chickens. I have seen posts here that lend validity to those statements. What I understand, though, is that the majority of our new generation of "heritage breeders" will come from people who are either new to chickens, or people who (like myself) started with hatchery quality and are considering keeping "better" quality in the future. If you are afraid to ask questions, or if the breeders make you feel like a nusiance, why would you want to become one?

I loved the way Bob would always tread lightly with anyone asking questions so as not to insult or discourage them, even if they were off base. He had a gift for gently guiding newbies in the right direction even when they were stubborn about how to get there. I wish (there I go again) that I had his talent for that. He wanted the new people to succeed.

With that said, the spirit of this particular thread is that serious breeders have a place to have serious discussions about their breeds, but I think we would be making a serious mistake by alienating anyone who is here seeking information on how "the other half" approachs this fulfilling hobby.

Welcome, please feel free to read and learn, and if there is something we can help you to understand, by all means, ask.
 
Quote: Considering how many of the annual hatch ends in the freezer I definitely want a well muscled dual purpose type. Need to still be good layers though.

Well considering how many new people have been checking out this thread . . . I think BOb has been accomplishing his mission. WIth the contiued help of those like you, his mission will continue.
 
Leslie, I hate to hear that you or anyone would be intimidated to post here.

I loved the way Bob would always tread lightly with anyone asking questions so as not to insult or discourage them,
even if they were off base. He had a gift for gently guiding newbies in the right direction even when they were stubborn about how to get there.

With that said, the spirit of this particular thread is that serious breeders have a place to have serious discussions about
their breeds, but I think we would be making a serious mistake by alienating anyone who is here seeking information on
how "the other half" approachs this fulfilling hobby.

Welcome, please feel free to read and learn, and if there is something we can help you to understand, by all means, ask.
x2! Please ask. And Leslie...Welcome to the thread!
Best,
Karen
 
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Folks, Leslie was a bit intimidated by the vast array of the BYC forum menu. LOL. She just didn't know where, in that vast array of choices to post. That's all.

It's all good.
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Considering how many of the annual hatch ends in the freezer I definitely want a well muscled dual purpose type. Need to still be good layers though.

Well considering how many new people have been checking out this thread . . . I think BOb has been accomplishing his mission. WIth the contiued help of those like you, his mission will continue.

Definitely. When I talk to a breeder who isn't pushing production qualities in their birds, I cringe. There is no reason you can't select to the standard AND get good production. I mean the form described in it is ideal to support it, you just have to select for it!
 
Definitely. When I talk to a breeder who isn't pushing production qualities in their birds, I cringe. There is no reason you can't select to the standard AND get good production. I mean the form described in it is ideal to support it, you just have to select for it!
Question for clarity:

Does production mean total body weight (at six months old) and total eggs over a similar amount of time (one year)?
 
For whatever reason, this thread disappeared off my profile page. Had to do a search to find it again and get caught up. Only saying this so it will again appear on my profile page.

I apologize for my part in taking this thread off topic as well. Back to standard Heritage Large Fowl!
Its ok but I too agree with gjensen this thread is a good beginning point for most any question and if need be, one can be answered here or sent in the direction which would/could be the most helpful/useful in the query. Lots of brain cells in action on this thread, in other words a good trail head, here.

Jeff
 
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Question for clarity:

Does production mean total body weight (at six months old) and total eggs over a similar amount of time (one year)?

Depends on breed. It was a general statement. In a dual purpose breed I'd want to select for both vigorous early growth to attain a good carcass in 20-24 weeks, and good egg production (150+ I consider decent for dual purpose). While with a dedicated egg laying breed like a Leghorn or Minocra I'd emphasize vigorous quick growth, but put more emphasis on egg production, I'd expect 200+ out of them. Those numbers are just my personal goals. But hopefully clarify the answer.
 
I've actually been here for a while. At first I had a bunch of questions about how to prepare myself and my current set-up for the eventual arrival of my "real" birds, but didn't get many replies. I did get some discouragement regarding my breed choice ... Delawares ... but not much else. Bad timing, I think.

I made a long loving post about the appeal of particular colors of egg in this thread ... as a response so someone's post saying they didn't get the whole fuss about egg color ... my egg color post got a lot of attention.

But ... Hi! I'm Leslie and I am now the proud sponsor of a trio of Delawares. I intend to learn-as-I-go in helping bring this awesome Dual Purpose heritage-ish breed back to SOP. I hope to broody raise scads of eggs ... presuming they ever start laying ... and "cull" by moving the females into my laying flock and the males into the grow out pen. I am sure I will be asking for all kinds of help assessing the birds for keepers vs culls and mating partners.

I'm excited. I've had the trio for about a month and am in awe of how impressive they are compared to my hatchery birds and mutts. But I'm adjusting to the slow maturation of them.

I've also got hatchery BBB turkeys ... for a few more days anyway ..., and way too many ducks. I love turkeys so much ... and ducks fascinate me. But first things first.

I was intimidated about off-topic posting ... We've been warned! But I couldn't resist. :lol:
 

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