If you are breeding these 2 breeds for egg production and on the Dels, good carcus size for butchering as well as egg production, please let me know. I am doing some flock planning for spring and I can see in my research that not only is getting away from hatchery birds good but making sure the breeder is breeding towards eggs and not all show quality. I will get better birds than hatchery birds geared toward the qualities I am looking for. Thanks!