Homemade chicken feed

[Donner]

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Here is a map that qbarfarm posted, its not the best but it is ok..
If you are concern about the selenium levels in you soil the best thing to do is get a hold of you State Collage and see if they do a complete soil test. Let them know that you want to know selenium levels, if they don't do it they might know who does.

http://tin.er.usgs.gov/geochem/doc/averages/se/usa.html
Here is another http://books.google.com/books?id=XMA9gYIj-C4C&pg=PA1977&lpg=PA1977&dq=U.S.+soil+selenium+map&source=bl&ots=nHSgd0r9yj&sig=91wlhisj2WB63rxAGjcnyxetnHg&hl=en&ei=Ggy1TL2kCsKblgfqsriXCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCEQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=U.S.%20soil%20selenium%20map&f=false
Chris

I thought it was fascinating to compare the usgs map to this map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HotspotsSRP.jpg

The jet stream goes west to east, so I wonder if the blue swath of increased soil levels across the Northerm US could be attributed to ash fall from eruptions of the Yellowstone Hotspot over the last several million years.

 

[Organics North]

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Here is a map that qbarfarm posted, its not the best but it is ok..
If you are concern about the selenium levels in you soil the best thing to do is get a hold of you State Collage and see if they do a complete soil test. Let them know that you want to know selenium levels, if they don't do it they might know who does.

http://tin.er.usgs.gov/geochem/doc/averages/se/usa.html
Here is another http://books.google.com/books?id=XMA9gYIj-C4C&pg=PA1977&lpg=PA1977&dq=U.S.+soil+selenium+map&source=bl&ots=nHSgd0r9yj&sig=91wlhisj2WB63rxAGjcnyxetnHg&hl=en&ei=Ggy1TL2kCsKblgfqsriXCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCEQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=U.S.%20soil%20selenium%20map&f=false
Chris

I thought it was fascinating to compare the usgs map to this map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HotspotsSRP.jpg

The jet stream goes west to east, so I wonder if the blue swath of increased soil levels across the Northerm US could be attributed to ash fall from eruptions of the Yellowstone Hotspot over the last several million years.

Now that is thinking!
Though if I recall, the ash fall from the yellostone "hotspot" headed more south easterly..

ON

 

[Chris09]

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I thought it was fascinating to compare the usgs map to this map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HotspotsSRP.jpg

The jet stream goes west to east, so I wonder if the blue swath of increased soil levels across the Northerm US could be attributed to ash fall from eruptions of the Yellowstone Hotspot over the last several million years.

Now that is thinking!
Though if I recall, the ash fall from the yellostone "hotspot" headed more south easterly..

ON

Also the areas that have more rain fall with sandy soil tend to have lower levels of Selenium in the soil.

Ohio does have the lowest levels of selenium in the United States and South Dakota has the highest levels in the United States and with that being said I find this interesting -

Ted Aloisio's book "From Blood Never Lies" :

The lowest levels of selenium in the United States are in Ohio and the highest levels are in South Dakota. Cancer mortality rates are double in Ohio and no other appreciable risk factors exist there. This is not an isolated occurrence; throughout the world areas of low selenium have higher cancer rates.

Chris​

 

[Donner]

I was also thinking, some of the higher levels are also in mountains, and places where water drains from mountains. So, in the mountains the high levels are geological and in the low lands, derived from sediment eroded from the mountains.

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Chris

I think a poster higher up made an excellent point. Selenium is necessary for proper health. Unfortunately, the difference between too little, too much, and just right is pretty small. So, you combine everything everyone has said here and the conclusion I come to is that in some places Selenium needs to be supplemented in feed due to low Selenium in the feed stock. Supplementing as a rule of thumb would be a bad idea due to some feed stocks having higher levels of Selenium due to where they are grown. So, if a feed mill is supplementing blindly then clearly the levels will fluctuate between just right and too high depending on what the incoming feed stock already contained. The same thing is possible with any supplement although they tend to have wider margins for error. It is possible to overdose on Vitamin A (not Beta Carotene), not easy, but it has happened.

 

[Chris09]

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Chris

I think a poster higher up made an excellent point. Selenium is necessary for proper health. Unfortunately, the difference between too little, too much, and just right is pretty small. So, you combine everything everyone has said here and the conclusion I come to is that in some places Selenium needs to be supplemented in feed due to low Selenium in the feed stock. Supplementing as a rule of thumb would be a bad idea due to some feed stocks having higher levels of Selenium due to where they are grown. So, if a feed mill is supplementing blindly then clearly the levels will fluctuate between just right and too high depending on what the incoming feed stock already contained. The same thing is possible with any supplement although they tend to have wider margins for error. It is possible to overdose on Vitamin A (not Beta Carotene), not easy, but it has happened.

Correct.

The other thing you have to watch is some Yeast supplements have Selenium mixed in it and they are called Selenium Yeast. Now if some is not careful and all they read if Yeast and not the Selenium part that could make for a quick overdose of Selenium. Diamond V puts out a Selenium Yeast that is Selenium 2000 ppm (mg/kg)..
Also some of the Livestock Vit./Min. mixes have added Selenium in it, The Mineral supplement I use for my goats is at min. 40 ppm.
So either the wrong Yeast or Mineral could make for a bad batch of feed.

Chris

 

[messianicmom]

I'm sorry if this has been answered, but in the feed formulas-what does BOSS mean?

Thanks, Rachel

 

[Chris09]

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Hi Rachel,
BOSS = Black Oil Sunflower Seed

Chris

 

[seabreeze]

I'm pretty ignorant in some ways. Please tell me what BOSS is? Thanks!

 

[ChickensAreSweet]

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Black Oil Sunflower Seeds. The things chickens chase when they hit the ground.

 

[seabreeze]

ROFL!! Thanks! They can eat the sunflower seeds whole? What are some of the best prices for BOSS (and weights for those prices)? Does anyone buy them at Walmart? I've seen them there. Does anyone use the other types of birdseeds carried there or at feed stores?