Homemade whole grain feed enough?

[rjohns39]

Hi and welcome to BYC I can tell you've put a lot of effort into this... I would suggest two books if you want to learn more about feed.

• "Commercial Poultry Nutrition", Second Edition by S.Leeson and J.D.Summers
• "Feeding Pasture—Raised Poultry" by Jeff Mattocks

I agree with most of what's been said here and will share my thoughts as well. I am not hard over on "Organic" but I want to know how my grains are grown, and what types of fertilizers were used (I look for natural and sustainable). I also use only non-GMO grains, not because I have an issue with GMO, but because I don't want even trace amounts of herbicide in my feed.

If you were to pursue your own recipe You'll need a vitamin pack. I recommend Fertrell Nutri-Balancer I would also recommend them for kelp and fish meal largely because I know the level of effort they put into finding their ingredients and ensuring that what's provided is organic and good for our birds. Also, if you're a fertrell customer you have access to their nutritionists.

I've taken a stab at your recipe to show you where you're at. There are a number of upper limits in feed recipes, for example barley and oats combined should not exceed 15% by volume. I don't have the analysis for the brewers yeast, so it is not included in the analysis below. But here's what your recipe looks like.

Nutrient Name: Amount Units
Crude Protein 13.6% %
Crude Fat 7.7% %
Crude Fiber 6.5% %
Calcium 0.17% %
Phosphorus 0.46% %
Salt added 0.09% %
Sodium 0.07% % per KG
Energy 1,315 Kcal/LB 2893.2
Vitamin A 58 IU/LB 128.44
Vitamin D 0 IU/LB 0
Vitamin E 0 IU/LB 0
Choline 1659 IU/LB 3649.3
Biotin 27.6 MCG/LB 60.722
Manganese 99.2 ppm 218.3
Zinc 28.3 ppm 62.212
Copper 9.88 ppm 21.741
Selenium (added) 0.00 ppm 0.0041
Lysine 0.59% %
Methionine 0.26% %
Methionine/Cystine 0.43% %
Arginine 0.78% %

And here's what a Sustainable Poultry Network (SPN) Grower ration would look like for comparison.
SPN Chick Grower

Ingredient Name: Amount:
CORN 7.0% (GRD) 815
SOYBEANS ROASTED 550
BARLEY 9% (GRD) 200
LINSEED ML. (O.P.)34/7 200
ALFALFA ML 17% 100
POULTRY NB DL 60
FISH ML (MENHADEN) 50
LIMESTONE 37% Ca 25

Formula Totals: 2,000

Nutrient: Units:
CRUDE PROTEIN 20.1 %
CRUDE FAT 7.8 %
CRUDE FIBER 5.5 %
CALCIUM 1.20 %
PHOSPHORUS 0.78 %
SALT (ADDED) 0.32 %
SODIUM 0.17 %
M.E. (PLTY) 1291 KCAL/LB
VITAMIN A 6.13 KIU/LB
VITAMIN D 1.61 KIU/LB
VIT. E (ADDED) 50.0 IU/LB
LYSINE 1.00 %
METHIONINE 0.42 %
METH + CYSTINE 0.63 %
MANGANESE 92.1 PPM
ZINC 70.6 PPM
IRON 64.6 PPM
COPPER 5.64 PPM
IODINE 3.78 PPM
SELENIUM 0.32 PPM

Hope this is helpful. If you would like assistance finding a feed mill that supports the SPN growers, I'd be happy to assist.

 

[The rooster mom]

Hi and welcome to BYC I can tell you've put a lot of effort into this... I would suggest two books if you want to learn more about feed.

• "Commercial Poultry Nutrition", Second Edition by S.Leeson and J.D.Summers
• "Feeding Pasture—Raised Poultry" by Jeff Mattocks

I agree with most of what's been said here and will share my thoughts as well. I am not hard over on "Organic" but I want to know how my grains are grown, and what types of fertilizers were used (I look for natural and sustainable). I also use only non-GMO grains, not because I have an issue with GMO, but because I don't want even trace amounts of herbicide in my feed.

If you were to pursue your own recipe You'll need a vitamin pack. I recommend Fertrell Nutri-Balancer I would also recommend them for kelp and fish meal largely because I know the level of effort they put into finding their ingredients and ensuring that what's provided is organic and good for our birds. Also, if you're a fertrell customer you have access to their nutritionists.

I've taken a stab at your recipe to show you where you're at. There are a number of upper limits in feed recipes, for example barley and oats combined should not exceed 15% by volume. I don't have the analysis for the brewers yeast, so it is not included in the analysis below. But here's what your recipe looks like.

Nutrient Name: Amount Units
Crude Protein 13.6% %
Crude Fat 7.7% %
Crude Fiber 6.5% %
Calcium 0.17% %
Phosphorus 0.46% %
Salt added 0.09% %
Sodium 0.07% % per KG
Energy 1,315 Kcal/LB 2893.2
Vitamin A 58 IU/LB 128.44
Vitamin D 0 IU/LB 0
Vitamin E 0 IU/LB 0
Choline 1659 IU/LB 3649.3
Biotin 27.6 MCG/LB 60.722
Manganese 99.2 ppm 218.3
Zinc 28.3 ppm 62.212
Copper 9.88 ppm 21.741
Selenium (added) 0.00 ppm 0.0041
Lysine 0.59% %
Methionine 0.26% %
Methionine/Cystine 0.43% %
Arginine 0.78% %

And here's what a Sustainable Poultry Network (SPN) Grower ration would look like for comparison.
SPN Chick Grower

Ingredient Name: Amount:
CORN 7.0% (GRD) 815
SOYBEANS ROASTED 550
BARLEY 9% (GRD) 200
LINSEED ML. (O.P.)34/7 200
ALFALFA ML 17% 100
POULTRY NB DL 60
FISH ML (MENHADEN) 50
LIMESTONE 37% Ca 25

Formula Totals: 2,000

Nutrient: Units:
CRUDE PROTEIN 20.1 %
CRUDE FAT 7.8 %
CRUDE FIBER 5.5 %
CALCIUM 1.20 %
PHOSPHORUS 0.78 %
SALT (ADDED) 0.32 %
SODIUM 0.17 %
M.E. (PLTY) 1291 KCAL/LB
VITAMIN A 6.13 KIU/LB
VITAMIN D 1.61 KIU/LB
VIT. E (ADDED) 50.0 IU/LB
LYSINE 1.00 %
METHIONINE 0.42 %
METH + CYSTINE 0.63 %
MANGANESE 92.1 PPM
ZINC 70.6 PPM
IRON 64.6 PPM
COPPER 5.64 PPM
IODINE 3.78 PPM
SELENIUM 0.32 PPM

Hope this is helpful. If you would like assistance finding a feed mill that supports the SPN growers, I'd be happy to assist.

Awesome this is great thank you so much.