Homesteaders

[OrganicFarmWife]

Which show is that?

I record a lot of the those type of shows but not have heard of that one.   Is that the one with the Kilchers on it?  Jewel's Dad?

No sorry, I got the name wrong. It is the Alaska, The Last Frontier.

 

[OrganicFarmWife]

No sorry, I got the name wrong. It is the Alaska, The Last Frontier.

So yes the Klichers

 

[KlopKlop]

We do not watch survivor, too much drama. There is some decent shows though, Surviving Alaska isn't bad. As cattle farmers ourselves, We do not always agree with everything they do, but it is interesting to watch. They are true homesteaders, not having the option to run to the store.
I imagine you would need someone with some knowledge of chicken diet and care. Also chickens do not like moving to new environments, could take time for an egg. How long are they there?

I have no idea but I do know that there was like 24ish contestants and they get voted off one at a time so several months?

 

[OrganicFarmWife]

I have no idea but I do know that there was like 24ish contestants and they get voted off one at a time so several months?

If that is the case, a laying hen would be invaluable.

 

[duluthralphie]

So yes the Klichers

I hate (well, not really ) to ruin the story for you, but it is a fraud.

I always wondered where they got all the equipment they use, the barge they haul cattle on and so forth. All the Back hoes, excavators and so on. My Son in law told me it was Jewel's family, I did not know that.

If you do a net worth check of them online you find Otto and Atz are worth 5 and 10 Million dollars.

Otto owns Anchorage Barge company or something like that. Atz has made several records. My Brother lives up there and claims they are only 15 miles from town, and are there frequently. I live further from a decent size town than that. Apparently they own a home in town too. I am getting this second and third hand so who knows.

A few million dollars would make my homesteading go a lot easier.

I still marvel at what they do. I just wish I had the millions to work with to buy all that equipment. (yes, that is envy you see dripping from me)..

It all just makes it seem so different when they say they wouldn't eat if they did not gather there own food or raise it. I wondered how they could afford to go 150 miles by air to hunt deer. The cost of traveling that far would make it cheaper to buy a beef on the hoof somewhere if you did not want to eat your own.


Just some of the things my DW and I wonder about as we watch it every week,,,

 

[Chicken girl 15]

Your the one that made the claim that we are not and I already asked for evidence from you, which you could never produce. I do know of sources, they will take time to find.

I guess I wasn't clear on what I ment. Regulations are very much needed for the safety of the masses, however there should also be a form or something us small farms can have customers sign to state they understand the risk of unpasteurized organic or any other item we might sell. It also should state the customer can't hold us liable for illness due to mishandled food products after purchase. Yes call us (small farm you bought from) and let us know you got ill from the item consumed , just so we know and if more than one gets ill then yes take responsibility. If one goof ball let's their fresh milk sit out too long no they can't cause a problem, if everyone who purchased from a specific batch gets ill it's the producers fault the need to make right. That's what insurance is for.

 

[duluthralphie]

I guess I wasn't clear on what I ment. Regulations are very much needed for the safety of the masses, however there should also be a form or something us small farms can have customers sign to state they understand the risk of unpasteurized organic or any other item we might sell. It also should state the customer can't hold us liable for illness due to mishandled food products after purchase. Yes call us (small farm you bought from) and let us know you got ill from the item consumed , just so we know and if more than one gets ill then yes take responsibility. If one goof ball let's their fresh milk sit out too long no they can't cause a problem, if everyone who purchased from a specific batch gets ill it's the producers fault the need to make right. That's what insurance is for.

While an good idea without a law making that kind of form valid it would be worthless. The other thing is gross negligence would be argued an you cannot sign away your rights in the case of gross negligence in advance. That would be akin to signing permission form saying you do not mind if you get hurt riding with me when I am drunk as a skunk... Not going to fly...

They have a law in Minnesota that says if you are hunting on a farmers land and you get hurt you cannot hold the land owner responsible. There needs to be a law like that for us little guys to be able to survive without having to skirt the laws.

 

[MoonShadows]

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This will never happen. That would allow unscroupulous small farms to have the freedom to do whatever they want without any responsibility and with immunity. While you may be very conscientious, not everyone is, nor does everyone care or practice the best safety standards. And, others just don't have the knowledge or guidance (from regulators) to follow safe practices. You make someone sick, you ARE responsible, whether you do it out of ignorance or neglect. That is why we need regulations, inspections and certificates. Granted, these are not fool proof, but they do help to cut down on instances of foodborne illness. This is not the 1800's and Little House on the Prairie. What you want is a dream.

 

[Chicken girl 15]

This will never happen. That would allow unscroupulous small farms to have the freedom to do whatever they want without any responsibility and with immunity. While you may be very conscientious, not everyone is, nor does everyone care or practice the best safety standards. And, others just don't have the knowledge or guidance (from regulators) to follow safe practices. You make someone sick, you ARE responsible, whether you do it out of ignorance or neglect. That is why we need regulations, inspections and certificates. Granted, these are not fool proof, but they do help to cut down on instances of foodborne illness. This is not the 1800's and Little House on the [COLOR=6A6A6A]Prairie[/COLOR]. What you want is a dream. 

obviously you are not reading my post in its entirety. I stated we do need regulations and such. I also want the government involved in the form small farms have signed. Its should NOT state the farm hold no responsibility, it should state that if the farm meets all standards and codes than the purchaser needs to prove , just like if a claim is made against Burger King or some other type place , that it was the small farms product that made them ill. I do not want small farms to be able to skip the laws just to be able to have laws to help us rather than hurt us.

I may be a dreamer, but some of the best things come from some little person having a big dream in some small part of the world.

You don't have to agree nor support my idea, it's just my little plan to try and make happen.

 

[Beekissed]

We do not watch survivor, too much drama. There is some decent shows though, Surviving Alaska isn't bad. As cattle farmers ourselves, We do not always agree with everything they do, but it is interesting to watch. They are true homesteaders, not having the option to run to the store.
I imagine you would need someone with some knowledge of chicken diet and care. Also chickens do not like moving to new environments, could take time for an egg. How long are they there?

I've caught a glimpse of those shows once or twice when we stay in a rental a couple of times a month and we had to laugh at their idea of "homesteading". I hate to rain on the parade but those folks are not true homesteaders in any sense of the word. From what I've seen on that TV, not a single reality TV show has much reality in them at all.