Hey Kentucky Chick u must live kind of close to me. I live in western Kentucky to. My tomatoes were about seven feet tall and covered in fruit this year, but my okra got washed away. I was to lazy to replant it. I got all my tomatoes off before that frost last week thank goodness. I try to help Newbie all I can but I to have never dealt with her kind of soil and growing conditions. I guess the ideals I give her is just a hit or miss and we will have to see how she turns out. Which I'm praying for the best turn out for her.