Horn saw??

Discussion in 'Other Pets & Livestock' started by RockyToggRanch, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. RockyToggRanch

    RockyToggRanch Songster

    May 22, 2008
    Upstate NY
    I bought a bone saw to remove scur horns from my Togg buck. One is pressing against the back of his head. The saw did not have any instructions for use. It's a very long wire with two handles. How does this work? Any tips on how to go about this procedure? I googled...but found nothing.

    I would typically post this on BYH, but I'm unable to get signed onto that site for some reason:/
  2. bigredfeather

    bigredfeather Songster

    Oct 1, 2008
    Yorkshire, Ohio
    I helped my friend cut off the scurs off one of his bucks using this type saw. To use the cutting wire, it needs to make a sawing motion(back and forth). That is what the handles are for. We put the buck on the stand, put the cutting wire at the base of the scur, and cut it as fast as we could. I must warn you, this is a procedure that can go wrong. The horns of a goat are connected to their sinus cavity, and after you cut, there can be a lot of blood. The blood will come out of it's nose as well. We used a dehorning iron to try and calderize where we cut. It really didn't work that well. We also covered the area with flour and stuck toilet paper in it to absorb the blood. That buck was very pale and lathargic for several weeks. He had called a vet about doing this, and some wouldn't even do it, and others said sedation was required.

    IMHO, if you have an expensive buck, I wouldn't do this myself. It would best be preformed by a vet with anesthesia available. i must also say, it seemed pretty painful. I would have never tried it on one of my animals.
  3. patandchickens

    patandchickens Flock Mistress

    Apr 20, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    I looked into this over the summer as one of my wether's natural-scur horns grows a bit weird (I am still not sure whether I'll ever have to do anything about it). I was looking more for advice on trimming horns, and remember seeing suggestions to, if possible, just remove a bit at a time, going back a month or so later to take more off if necessary, to reduce the chances of accidentally causing major dangerous bleeding. Alternatively one can try to remove the whole horn right at skull level, which is even more dangerous. Bleeding and sinus-cavity (or even brain) infection are cited as signficant risks.

    The wire saw is operated as previous poster says.

    If you google "dehorn saw" or similar phrases you will find a bunch of pages with informative descriptions (it's easier for you to just do the search yourself than for me to post a bazillion links)

    Good luck,

  4. Chickerdoodle13

    Chickerdoodle13 The truth is out there...

    Mar 5, 2007
    Phoenix, AZ
    Dehorning to remove the scurs is a kind of nasty procedure. We had to do it to my whether because his horn was growing against his head and rubbing. The procedure looked very painful and was VERY bloody! I like Pat's idea of taking off only a little at a time. I think that would reduce a lot of the risks! Though it might cause more stress for the goat.

    I think you definitely need a cauterizing iron to help stop the bleeding. I do remember our vet charged us very little to the procedure and if I had to do it again, I would probably call out a vet. I don't have a weak stomach at all, but the thought of doing the dehorning myself makes me a bit queasy!
  5. Hound

    Hound Songster

    Apr 25, 2010
    If you have hoof nippers you can use those to take the tip off the scur, if it's not too thick. Little and often, don't try and cut the whole thing off in one go.
  6. Sumatra503

    Sumatra503 Kozy Orchard Farms

    Sep 24, 2010
    Mostly a horn is like a nail in a way. The very end doesn't contain much bone or blood vessels. Snipping off the end is generally fairly painless. It needs to be done often just like trimming a nail.

    Do they allow scurs when showing?
  7. Attack Chicken

    Attack Chicken [IMG]emojione/assets/png/2665.png?v=2.2.7[/IMG] Hu

    Sep 25, 2008
    Indianapolis, IN
    Sorry I said anything...
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2011
  8. Hound

    Hound Songster

    Apr 25, 2010
    Quote:Dehorning a calf you wouldn't have major blood loss. But dehorning a grown cow there would be significant bleeding.
  9. bigredfeather

    bigredfeather Songster

    Oct 1, 2008
    Yorkshire, Ohio
    A cows horns are not part of it's sinus system like a goat, so not really the same thing.
  10. critterranch

    critterranch Songster

    Oct 1, 2010
    Red Creek, New York
    you can band horn with castratings bands have done this many times. it really works. i have done 18 inch horns with this method. and have had results in 3 weeks. did not cut horn at all but banded with 2-4 bands. depends how still goat stands in stand lol. but it works it is slow and things heal up very fast. just have too make sure no flys get to it. i do in colder weather. you can search on backyardherds.com if you want. i am think outside the box kind of person. i have done this to 4 does just in the last six months. love it love it. plus i did it by myself with no help. goats stood on stand pretty good.

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