~HORSE FOLKS~I Need Some Advice On A Yearling I Have

[lockedhearts]

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Repitition....... I have taken in a few horses with issues, either not handled or been abused. First you need to really know this horse, her personality to get an idea of how to proceed.

If flighty, I would do repetitive movements, until she stands still. I had to do this with my paint mare, she did not want anyone to touch her face or head at all and any movement near her head, would freak her out. I put halter and lead on her, took her to my round pen and started slowly. First I moved my arm back and forth, then started reaching towards her face, again and again and again. I then would put my hand towards the top of her head, not touching, but kept doing the same movement until she stood perfectly still and realized I was not going to kill her.

I understand this would should be clean and this may take awhile to accomplish, but you can do this several times a day in 5-10 minute segments (depending on her attention span) and hopefully in a few days, you will be able to progress to at least being able to put some sort of wound treatment on her.

I am assuming she is more flighty from your previous posts.

 

[welsummerchicks]

As stated before, it's hard to give training advice as what to do depends on how the horse reacts to each thing one does. And honestly, if you can't get medication on a front leg, and can't get horse to simply just stand still, either this is the rankest range pony in history or you need in person, direct guidance or you are going to get hurt. So exit stage left, as I am not going to give training tips that could cause an accident. As Pat said this is not something that is solved by a few paragraphs on a bb. Please get on site help. Doesn't matter who as long as they are experienced and knowledgeable.

 

[The Wolf Queen]

lockedhearts wrote: Repitition....... I have taken in a few horses with issues, either not handled or been abused. First you need to really know this horse, her personality to get an idea of how to proceed.

If flighty, I would do repetitive movements, until she stands still. I had to do this with my paint mare, she did not want anyone to touch her face or head at all and any movement near her head, would freak her out. I put halter and lead on her, took her to my round pen and started slowly. First I moved my arm back and forth, then started reaching towards her face, again and again and again. I then would put my hand towards the top of her head, not touching, but kept doing the same movement until she stood perfectly still and realized I was not going to kill her.

I understand this would should be clean and this may take awhile to accomplish, but you can do this several times a day in 5-10 minute segments (depending on her attention span) and hopefully in a few days, you will be able to progress to at least being able to put some sort of wound treatment on her.

I am assuming she is more flighty from your previous posts.

Thanks for the advice & for staying on topic

. Im just really worried because its obviously infected. When I first got her (March 13th & probably a march foal) she wouldnt let me near. A week later she was doing better but then got sick & after some shots it took me two weeks & some help from my farrier to get her to trust me again. After a while she didnt even flinch if I would raise a hand fast, pat her on the butt or neck (for a while she would shy away or flinch), or even move or drop a manure rake or something. The thing with her is the moment she gets scared she is flighty till left alone. Shez been doing good & would come when I signaled & let me pet & halter her but the moment I even touched the wound to look at it I was the person from hell. So she is fine until I go near the cut. The moment she realizes im interested in that she goes off. Today I went in signaled her to come (I put her in a round pen so she would be easier to catch if she decided im horrid again) & a minute later she did. I decided to start with some light off line lunging (it took her 2 times to be completely ok with a whip) then I ran the whip over her & haltered her. Then I took her over to the hose & at least got the puss layer off the most open part of the wound. Things were OK but after a few minutes she got dancy again or would move her self so I was on her right side instead of the left. She would still follow me but wanted to make sure I was on her opposite side. Yes I did correct her & lead her on the left. I ended stuff with one last rinse on the wound, rewarded her when she was still & then I scratched her neck & she allowed me to rub about 2 inches from the area. After that I put her back in the round pen & threw her some hay. I wish there was a way to cover it though. Everytime im out there its caked in dirt

. I was thinking of doing the spray bottle thing but with water & eventually making it to the cut then sneakin this stuff a friend of my mother's, who works at a vet supply store, recomended instead of water. I dont remember the name but its a white sprayer, is sorta pricey, & the med is pain free & sort of turns into a gel bandaid. I think its called Vetericyn or something

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[lockedhearts]

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Thanks for the advice & for staying on topic

. Im just really worried because its obviously infected. When I first got her (March 13th & probably a march foal) she wouldnt let me near. A week later she was doing better but then got sick & after some shots it took me two weeks & some help from my farrier to get her to trust me again. After a while she didnt even flinch if I would raise a hand fast, pat her on the butt or neck (for a while she would shy away or flinch), or even move or drop a manure rake or something. The thing with her is the moment she gets scared she is flighty till left alone. Shez been doing good & would come when I signaled & let me pet & halter her but the moment I even touched the wound to look at it I was the person from hell. So she is fine until I go near the cut. The moment she realizes im interested in that she goes off. Today I went in signaled her to come (I put her in a round pen so she would be easier to catch if she decided im horrid again) & a minute later she did. I decided to start with some light off line lunging (it took her 2 times to be completely ok with a whip) then I ran the whip over her & haltered her. Then I took her over to the hose & at least got the puss layer off the most open part of the wound. Things were OK but after a few minutes she got dancy again or would move her self so I was on her right side instead of the left. She would still follow me but wanted to make sure I was on her opposite side. Yes I did correct her & lead her on the left. I ended stuff with one last rinse on the wound, rewarded her when she was still & then I scratched her neck & she allowed me to rub about 2 inches from the area. After that I put her back in the round pen & threw her some hay. I wish there was a way to cover it though. Everytime im out there its caked in dirt

. I was thinking of doing the spray bottle thing but with water & eventually making it to the cut then sneakin this stuff a friend of my mother's, who works at a vet supply store, recomended instead of water. I dont remember the name but its a white sprayer, is sorta pricey, & the med is pain free & sort of turns into a gel bandaid. I think its called Vetericyn or something

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Vetericyn is good stuff. You could check with the vet about possibly some SMZ tabs, most horses will eat them mixed with feed. My stallions leg was cut badly, they started off being able to treat it and then he stopped allowing it to be treated. Personally, I would have done what I could have, because now he has permanent scarring and that fetlock is larger that the other one. There is a really good product we use here called Underwoods Horse Medicine, it is nasty looking stuff and you spray it on then throw Baking Powder on top, but it stops infection and generally there is no scar. If I remember correctly, the spray from the underwoods shoots a good distance and then you could probably get close enough to throw the Baking Powder on top.

 

[The Wolf Queen]

Ill have my mom text her friend & ask if he carries Underwoods Horse Medicine. What are SMZ tabs & can you only get them through a vet or are they available at farm stores as well?

I just wish good horse vets were easier to find here. Did I mention that my ultra emergency vet has his clinic & home right behind our property, we have always been good neighbors, & hez way expensive & has never once offered us even a little break or payments

. So much for good neighbors

anyways if anybody knows a good horse vet in Abq NM let me know please!



BTW Just in case anyone was wondering im not in this for profit. I was just stating what the money I get from selling the horses will be going into. Yes I need a bigger truck, yes I need a 14 or 16ft stock trailer (brand new $4,000 is my main focus right now) but only MAYBE around $100 will be going into that from each horse I sell horse.

 

[Jasmine1998]

SMZ's are an antibiotic...I always make sure to have this stocked. Great stuff. Here you can only get it from the vet or online with a prescription.

Here is a link just to give you an idea of what it is. It is not that exspensive if you can get the vet to let you kust pick some up...this link it looks expensive because they want you to buy 500 tablets. You can mix it with applesauce or mix it with water & give it to them by syinge. You can try just crushing it up & putting it on the feed but unless it is sweet feed & stick to it, most of it may end up in the bottom of the feed dish.

http://www.specialtypharmacync.com/estore/details/23973/0/2920

 

[lockedhearts]

SMZ is a Sulfa Drug, they are used as a general treatment for infection. They are relatively inexpensive. You should be able to google underwoods Horse Medicine and find somewhere to order it from online.

I have a mild form of Rosacea, Dermatoligist put me on SMZ, but of course a human prescription is crazy pricey, so I buy them from my vet for $10 for 30 tabs, of course I only take 1 per day, horses need more than that.

 

[The Wolf Queen]

Thanks guys!

locked hearts wrote: I have a mild form of Rosacea, Dermatoligist put me on SMZ, but of course a human prescription is crazy pricey, so I buy them from my vet for $10 for 30 tabs, of course I only take 1 per day, horses need more than that.

Lol talk about saving money

 

[The Wolf Queen]

My mother talked to her friend & he doesnt carry Underwoods but something similar. She bought some just in case & were gonna look around to see if we can find a store that does carry Underwoods. The tablets do need to be sold by a vet so I guess Ill be asking the neighbor. Tomorrow spray bottle fulla water training time. Today she actually made a lot of progress & she allowed me to touch the area directly around the wound & looked relaxed after I ran the cold hose over it for a while (makes me wish I had one of those cement floored bathing areas: LOTS of mud). At first she looked mad as hell & did manage to get me once in the arm with her teeth. Thankfully its a small barely darkened bruise. Ive never been bit before & it wasnt what I was expecting. I expected the kinda pain you get from a brick or something falling on your arm but it was more of a burn O_O. Anyways she got me & I yanked the halter, smacked her once, & told her "NO biting". After that she clicked her teeth 2 or 3 more times half heartedly then when I kept praising her for letting me touch the owee she relaxed. I could sort of hear the "oh...im a good girl again...cool

" go off in her head. Thankfully the hose washed off most of the dead skin in the larger area & the manure on top. She still kinda danced when I actually attempted to touch the open part but hey progress

. Oh yeah & I also did a lot of slowly moving my hand in the air near the wound. It took her a few minutes but she did OK. Im REALLY proud of her

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