horse people...gelding? UPDATE!AGAIN! 11/26 pics

[geebs]

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From: Chenango Forks NY
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View My BYC Page Re: horse people...gelding?Just wanted to mention that he looks a bit thin. He has been fully evaluated by my vet as required before gelding. Other then a belly full of worms when I had a fecal done he is OK. The seller says he is from a line of lean horses being half TB, I think he has not gotten enough pasture or hay. As soon as he is home he will be getting properly fattened up, I wish I could take him ASAP but can't risk having him on my property ungelded and it was a bit of a wait for my preferred vet.

He looks cared for otherwise so no worries... Your thinking is sound. What bloodlines is he from??? TB's especially young ones can looks racey as they grow... Keep us posted on the gelding thing... He had such a sweet face!!!​

 

[Kelly G]

My Fjord, Ole (see my BYC page), was gelded when I purchased him last year at the age of 10. He was retired from a breeding program, and has made a TERRIFIC gelding!

He went from intense stallion to child-safe gelding in about 7-8 weeks....but a noticed a change starting at about 3 weeks after the surgery.

He is an absolute gentleman. He remembers mares.....but doesn't remember why! LOL. He'll look at them, maybe a half whinny, and then he's back to his first love - waiting for his next meal!

Good luck - I don't think you'll be disappointed with the changes after he is gelded....and by my perspective, three is nice and young!

Did the vet worm him for you? My only thought (which you already addressed) was that he looked a bit wormy.

 

[lockedhearts]

You also need to geld in the proper weather. It needs to be cool, but not so cold you can't hose him. Most old timers follow the Farmers Alamanac as to proper time. Personally, any around here that are slated to be geldings , get done asap from a few months to just over a year. Once the testosterone starts coming in, they will never grow to what they could have. My 6 month old is getting done end of Oct.

My stallion is a perfect gentleman, he knows when he is allowed to act like a stallion and when he is not. 99% of the time he is led in and out, around mares on just a lead rope. Of course he has always been raised right and has always been shown what is good behavior. I can take him to a show, and he never utters a word.

 

[TinyTotsSeramas]

I havent read any of the other comments but here is what I have experianced in the 13 years I've been around horses.

So my question is how long will it take after he is gelded to start acting like a gelding?

-a couple weeks if gelded right now, put it off for a couple more weeks it would probably take a month or so.. basically its all up to the horse.. If he REALLY likes mares, it will take him longer.

He is getting gelded right where he is but as soon as he is fit to travel he is coming home?

-IMO.. once the surgery site has healed, but everyone has their own opinion.

I have a nice high 6 strand electric fence paddock that he will be in...how long before he can join in group turnout?

-A new horse should always be quarinteened for 30 days.. once 30 days are up, I would take a horse from the herd that would be his best equal (not a top horse but not a horse he'll push around easy).. an pair them up in the paddock, it may take some playing around with a couple horses from the herd but once he has a "buddy" it will make joining them easier.

 

[bufforp89]

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I personally would love to wait until every bit of testosterone is out of his body.

But that's not really an option. The farm that he is at is downsizing, they don't board and are anxious to have him moved as the two other stud colts that he is turned out with will be gone in a week or two.

Sad situation really, older lady with some really beautiful horses, has been breeding them as sport horse type horses and actually did pretty well for herself. She had a stroke last year or the year before and is now too weary to do much with them other then basic ground work given her age and not so great health. She is the only one caring for them as her husband had an accident involving a yearling a few years back (not Clyde lol) and broke his shoulder pretty badly and not being a horse person before hand is now terrified of them. So now she is selling off all of her breeding stock and youngsters, gelding her stud and getting out of breeding horses. Poor lady, what an awful choice to make. She is really doing the right thing though getting them into proper homes before winter hits....

Anyways, can't wait any longer to bring him home, just not an option at this point, maybe I have to rethink my fence though...

 

[bufforp89]

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Yea the vet wormed him and I will do it again once he is home.

Encouraging story about your gelding/former stud! Was a bit worried about him acting studdy but really don't think he will as he is so mellow now. The only stud type thing he has done in my presence is call to the brood mares. A bit obnoxious but actually settled down and got back to work after a reminder.

 

[bufforp89]

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When would the proper weather usually be? We were told that now is an ok time for my area, no flies as its getting chilly at night but our days are still 70-80 degrees....I would have loved to have him gelded as a yearling as well but obviously just wasn't an option as I had no idea he existed. The farm owner likes to geld late for some reason...

Your stud sounds super nice. I have admired him on your website actually. Sounds nothing like the stud I have to occasionally handle at work. He is a handful... Nexavar http://oakwoodmanor.biz/at stud.htm Super awesome though as you can see.

 

[TinyTotsSeramas]

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When would the proper weather usually be? We were told that now is an ok time for my area, no flies as its getting chilly at night but our days are still 70-80 degrees....I would have loved to have him gelded as a yearling as well but obviously just wasn't an option as I had no idea he existed. The farm owner likes to geld late for some reason...

Your stud sounds super nice. I have admired him on your website actually. Sounds nothing like the stud I have to occasionally handle at work. He is a handful... Nexavar http://oakwoodmanor.biz/at stud.htm Super awesome though as you can see.

Middle of fall when temps are cool an there is no flies.

 

[greeneggsandham]

My only advice is to watch his weight when he does get gelded.

My friend who breeds arabians (well not in the last two years due to the economy) had her two and three year old stud colts done early this Spring. One did fine like all the past colts, but her other boy did not handle the gelding well at all. He lost a good 150lbs very quickly and his sheath was so swollen she ended up having to take him to the clinic for a week. Now both of her boys were done on the same day by the same vet. Just one reacted differently.

Not saying this will happen at all, just something to keep an eye on.

Best of luck

 

[Pebbles]

Good advice from everyone here. It can takeup to 6 months for all the testosterone to be eliminated from his body. He must come to you a short time after he is gelded so when he comes to you, you MUST treat him as if he is still a stallion. Any new horse should be separated from your other horses for 30 days anyways. He needs to be in a strong pen where he can not CAN NOT get out. A stallion is a powerhouse of energy and raging hormones. We have a horse who was not gelded until he was 8 years old. He was never bred, we just had him with our other geldings and no other horses were around so we never bothered until we moved and I got a little filly. He was a well mannered stallion and he did not tear up his stall trying to get at my filly, however, he immediately began to exhibit all the stallion traits-talking to her, whinning, dropping, it took him about 2 years to get over his stallion tendances of dropping in the presence of my filly.

If you have the ability to keep him separated from any mares by quite a distance that would be the best. If he is within "talking and seeing" distance of any mares his natural instincts toward mares will become immediately apparent and not easily unlearned.

Best advice-Treat him like a stud for the first three months-DO NO BE AGGRESSIVE BUT BE ASSERTIVE-this is extremely important. When you have him on a lead DO NOT allow him to talk or drop. Be firm but not mean. Stallions are quick, they can hurt you, they have an inate sense of justice (they know when you are right in getting after them for something or when you were being aggressive) and actually a joy to work with if you train them right and they have a good mind.

If you have never been around a stallion on a daily basis do some reading, be on your toes. He will make a better horsewoman/man of you if you treat him right when he first comes to you.