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[Kalsti]

Thanks so much for this info!!!! Very helpful.

 

[goosiemama]

Ask Ruru, she´s the whizz on Niacin (important vitamin B3 in Brewer´s Yeast)
Goosiemama, how many tablets are recommended for one person to take per day? That dosage seems quite high for a goose. Some vitamins we take get washed through if the body doesn´t need it, but others can cause a problem if we over-do it.

Hi, I would think that would be high too, but there is always food left in the dish. Also, any less and she really cannot walk. I started with one tab and just kept upping it till she felt OK. I do put it toward the side of the dish opposite of where I put Gabby's oyster shell, to hopefully keep them each on "their side" of the bowl. I've tried feeding in different spots, but you may know that Pekins do whatever they want, and Gabby's so nosey, she must get into Francie's food, no matter what. Do you think Gabby Duck will have a problem with overdose of niacin? So far her eggs are still tasty and shells are nice and hard. I will do some more research, and let you all know what I find, but do you have any idea how I would know if Gabby is getting too much niacin? Thank you, livininbrazil.
ps Do you really live in brazil? If so, where?

 

[livininbrazil]

Hi, I would think that would be high too, but there is always food left in the dish. Also, any less and she really cannot walk. I started with one tab and just kept upping it till she felt OK. I do put it toward the side of the dish opposite of where I put Gabby's oyster shell, to hopefully keep them each on "their side" of the bowl. I've tried feeding in different spots, but you may know that Pekins do whatever they want, and Gabby's so nosey, she must get into Francie's food, no matter what. Do you think Gabby Duck will have a problem with overdose of niacin? So far her eggs are still tasty and shells are nice and hard. I will do some more research, and let you all know what I find, but do you have any idea how I would know if Gabby is getting too much niacin? Thank you, livininbrazil.
ps Do you really live in brazil? If so, where?

Just out of interest, do you think it´s the Brewer´s Yeast or the glucosamine that helps her the most? Is she an old goose? I can´t remember her story. She´ll show the usual symptoms if she is actually deficient in Niacin, but glucosamine will help her if she has joint lubrication problems.

And yes, I live in São Paulo state, a couple of hours north of São Paulo city. Not too hot, not too cold. And plenty of space for birds.

 

[Kalsti]

LivininBrazil what I am looking for is not really just a first aid kit-/ but a list of supplements and such as well.

 

[brandilly]

kalsti, frostbite is extremely painful, which is why it is important to have metacam for pain relief.

brandi, we scoop the hay out every couple of weeks.

Per my vet, for a 15-20lb goose the daily dose for brewer's yeast is 1/2 teaspoon, glucosamine is 1 tablet, and fish oil is 1/2 capful. Of these three supplements, fish oil is my vet's absolute favorite for geese.

Thanks, Lain Utah!!! I have no idea if I can get it around here but I'm going to find out!

 

[Iain Utah]

Goosiemama, my vet says that too much niacin can cause problems, so yes.... you can give them too much of that supplement. Not sure on glucosamine. But have you tried fish oil? I am sure my vet would recommend tapering off the glucosamine and adding fish oil. He seriously swears that fish oil is the wonder supplement for geese with arthritis.

Brandi, you can get brewer's yeast, fish oil and glucosamine from a human nutrition store, but Metacam is prescription only.

 

[livininbrazil]

Goosiemama, my vet says that too much niacin can cause problems, so yes.... you can give them too much of that supplement. Not sure on glucosamine. But have you tried fish oil? I am sure my vet would recommend tapering off the glucosamine and adding fish oil. He seriously swears that fish oil is the wonder supplement for geese with arthritis.

Brandi, you can get brewer's yeast, fish oil and glucosamine from a human nutrition store, but Metacam is prescription only.

Glucosamine comes from fish shells, and what the body doesn´t want it discharges. It´s safe to use, like fish oil, but niacin has its limits.

 

[brandilly]

Thanks, again, Iain Utah! Forewarned is forearmed! As for where I can get it, I was talking about the hay you use. I don't know if that is something you can get in any part of the country at any time or not! I am hoping so as it looks mighty comfy, even to my human eyes!

 

[Iain Utah]

Oh!

You can get grass hay at most local feed stores or on craigslist ad (under horse hay). Since you are in Washington, you should be able to find a very comparable type of hay to what we get here in Utah.

 

[ekofke201]

Will they actually munch on the hay? I have a couple of mallards and runners, will this benefit them as well?