how do i breed this color?

[JesusisGod]

https://www.lorefarms.com/snowy-quail.html

Thanks, anyone in Australia who has let me know thanks

 

[FloorCandy]

https://www.lorefarms.com/snowy-quail.html

Thanks, anyone in Australia who has let me know thanks

The ones in those photos are pearl fee. To get the crisp black and white, you will want 2 copies of fee. Fee is a dilution gene, often found in the German pastel collection. It is incompletely dominant, and dilutes browns, and reds, but ignores blacks. One copy of fee will let browns bleed thru, 2 copies removes most brown. The pattern is Italian, so you need Italian and fee.

 

[JesusisGod]

i think i have a diluting gene, i think they call it blue here. but i keep getting silvers. So i cross a silver blue with an italian? repeatedly

 

[FloorCandy]

i think i have a diluting gene, i think they call it blue here. but i keep getting silvers. So i cross a silver blue with an italian? repeatedly

No. There is a silver that comes from the schofield silver collection (SSC), which is one of the more common types of silver. This silver can have fee, they sometimes are found together, due to common roots. There’s also blue (Blau), Andalusian, and lavender, which also make gray birds, those come from the German pastel collection (gpc), these are American terms, and I’m certain they differ around the world. Those colors all may or may not have fee. You can’t really know if the grays have fee or not, unless you test breed them to other colors. a bird with Italian pattern but with gray speckles instead of black, is called snowie. If a bird has 2 copies of fawn (Italian) they will have less speckles and that’s called manchurian. There are a lot of lovely patterns and colors that stem from Italian, you can try crossing them to a variety of your different colors and patterns, and get a very diverse flock, and see what kind of genes you might have hiding in there, hopefully some fee.

 

[JesusisGod]

No. There is a silver that comes from the schofield silver collection (SSC), which is one of the more common types of silver. This silver can have fee, they sometimes are found together, due to common roots. There’s also blue (Blau), Andalusian, and lavender, which also make gray birds, those come from the German pastel collection (gpc), these are American terms, and I’m certain they differ around the world. Those colors all may or may not have fee. You can’t really know if the grays have fee or not, unless you test breed them to other colors. a bird with Italian pattern but with gray speckles instead of black, is called snowie. If a bird has 2 copies of fawn (Italian) they will have less speckles and that’s called manchurian. There are a lot of lovely patterns and colors that stem from Italian, you can try crossing them to a variety of your different colors and patterns, and get a very diverse flock, and see what kind of genes you might have hiding in there, hopefully some fee.

Thanks, ill keep incubating for a bit. I had a wild pharoah type pattern chick but then it turned silver/grey with red chest types of marking of pharaoh bleed through around head. i think thats a roux diluting gene?, not sure who mother or father was but i got few quails doing similar things like that, mainly with a rosseta tibetian pattern though. I got rid of him but, cant have him mating with siblings.

 

[JesusisGod]

Do you know of people breeding fish to feed to their animals? do you know of a fish that would eat the dead bodies that didnt hatch from incubator or dust of chicken quail feed?

 

[FloorCandy]

Thanks, ill keep incubating for a bit. I had a wild pharoah type pattern chick but then it turned silver/grey with red chest types of marking of pharaoh bleed through around head. i think thats a roux diluting gene?, not sure who mother or father was but i got few quails doing similar things like that, mainly with a rosseta tibetian pattern though. I got rid of him but, cant have him mating with siblings.

That actually sounds like falb fee, which is wild pattern with fee. A roux bird will not have any black showing at all. A roux bird with silver will be a dusty gold, like a reddish/gold/gray.

 

[JesusisGod]

That actually sounds like falb fee, which is wild pattern with fee. A roux bird will not have any black showing at all. A roux bird with silver will be a dusty gold, like a reddish/gold/gray.

okay, good. I think i know who father mother is but only have mother which is a phaorah, ive kept siblings and got rid of the dad, he was a silver tux. Hopefully get a girl. Do you think a manchurian boy cross with falb fee might produce something similar to pearl fee ? i had such a rough hatch (34.6 temp incubator till day 10 roughly) with the falbs father offspring they have bad toes and hips and look weird. I hope out of 5 there is one girl thats not disabled.

 

[FloorCandy]

okay, good. I think i know who father mother is but only have mother which is a phaorah, ive kept siblings and got rid of the dad, he was a silver tux. Hopefully get a girl. Do you think a manchurian boy cross with falb fee might produce something similar to pearl fee ? i had such a rough hatch (34.6 temp incubator till day 10 roughly) with the falbs father offspring they have bad toes and hips and look weird. I hope out of 5 there is one girl thats not disabled.

Fee isn’t carried unseen in a pharaoh, so the father must have had it. The mother will not give you fees if she is a normal looking pharaoh, but the offspring of those 2 will probably have half having fee, so you can pick one of those. Inbreeding is not a big deal in quail, you can actually line breed parent to child several times without issues, most people will introduce new blood every year or two.

 

[JesusisGod]

Okay I’ll see if I can get the Color eventually idk about inbreeding got two new boy blood today. I think he’s got red in the Manchurian see what comes of it all. Thanks for your help