How do you tell a vet "No" politely??

I think all the information you posted was great! And it was everything I went through to get where we are. DH and I decided that since the blood work came back great and we are not made of money, that we will just leave it as is and hope he lives a long happy life. We, by no means, would leave him without medical attention if he were sickly or had any other ailment.
 
It's a funny thing. I am not so sure the 'quality' of horse care in the US is so much worse than human care. To my way of thinking, it's far better. Vets, good ones, are very good at saying what it likely is, and what the best approach is to both get the horse good care and economize. They have a sense of what makes sense to do.

I have on a number of occasions, been scared to death by my doctor (you never want to hear a doc say, 'Um....have you had your brain MRI'd lately?') and undertaken a long series of difficult and expensive tests, only to find out I had something very ordinary that was manageable with a few simple changes, even had the many specialists I was sent to laugh in my face about such things being remotely possible or likely, given the imaging I had. At the same time I've had extremely obvious diagoses totally miscalled, and symptoms I reported dismissed with a wave of the hand and a 'You aren't having that symptom'. Oh excuse me. I could have sworn I did.

I've also been told I couldn't have medicine A because some tests had shown there was a slightly elevated risk of stroke in a very, very large population sample, when those who had the strokes had a large number of other risk factors known to be associated with strokes. BUT I was perfectly free to get the medication from an OB/GYN, that would be fine. Why is it ok to get it from an OB/GYN and not from a Family Med doctor that was primary care? That question was never answered.

We spend an immense amount of money in health care chasing after very unlikely issues, when the doctor should look for the common case and look for 'horses, not zebras'. I also think doctors often need to read up more on common problems - I've had several ordinary conditions which a doctor did not know many of the common symptoms it could cause.

At the same time, many of the very ill people seem to be ignored, statistics about large groups become why a mamogram would not be recommended, say, until a certain age because of a percentage of 'false positives' that might cause people to get 'expensive' biopsies that turn out to be ok - Such reasoning is ridiculous. A person who gets CANCER costs much much more to care for - it's worth it to 'blow' 1K on an unecessary biopsy to catch the X number of people who DO have cancer, because that's going to cost hundreds of times more than the few unnecessary biopsies. Managed care and insurance companies are using statistics to avoid paying for preventative care like mamograms.

I think we need more sensible guidelines in practicing medicine.
 
For many years my dogs actually received better medical care than me. It took 5 years to convince the medical community I actually had something wrong with me. Finally a clever rheumatologist figured it out. During this time I learned how to select a doctor and how to talk with them and not be dismissed as a "whiner". Most of my doctors are female - I avoid older male doctors like the plague, if at all possible. Sadly, chauvinism is rife in the medical community and also translates into chauvinistic medicine. I'm sure that women in this country are not as well cared for as they could be by a large element of the medical community.

Now my medical care is as good as my dog's.
 
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I once had a very old skinny mare. I put her on one of those bagged all-in-one horse rations with chopped hay and stuff. I added a little grain to it. You wouldn't believe the difference it made. In a few weeks she looked like a different horse.
 
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Just another opinion:
I have known several vets who were not crooks and were very caring in dealing with my animals; I can name you some great ones in Charleston SC and in Tennessee. That being said, we expect these people to basically go to medical school and then work for a pittance. We don't want to pay real medicine money for our animals, because, let's face it, they are just animals. I don't blame the vets; some people are willing to go the extra mile for their pets and will pay anything. Others are not. If I can't afford something for my pet, or don't want to do it, I talk to the vet about it. If we agree (and usually we do) that's fine. If we don't, then it's either time to do more research or find another vet. I respect both the amount of time these people have put into their studies and their need to pay off their student loans just like everybody else.

I agree there are SOME good ones out there, but the ones I am referring to give them all a bad name.
Vets prey upon our ignorance and emotions. period.
 
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Ask her if she will be doing the tests at no charge. When she says no, simply state that you aren't prepared to pay for more tests either.

P.S. I wish humans would gradually get thinner instead of fatter as they age (specifically me).
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Ask her if she will be doing the tests at no charge. When she says no, simply state that you aren't prepared to pay for more tests either.

Right! It's she who is so curious (supposedly). Why should you even have to consider paying for her "research" to satisfy her personal curiosity.
 
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Ask her if she will be doing the tests at no charge. When she says no, simply state that you aren't prepared to pay for more tests either.

Right! It's she who is so curious (supposedly). Why should you even have to consider paying for her "research" to satisfy her personal curiosity.

Because . . . vets are crooks
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some older horses need more calories, some have medical or dental issues. my old man needs exercise. I can put a fat hay belly on him and make him gain weight that way, but he will only end up looking like a beer chugging guy with a pot belly. and his arthritis really bothers him. now if he get consistent exercise, not just pasture turnout because pasture time means he only moves when the grass in front of his face is gone, but real work. he gains muscle, puts on good looking weight and has zero arthritis or stiffness problems.

we have come to the realization that he can never truly retire and live the pasture ornament life because its just not helping him. plus he loves his people and having a job. for a horse that was a full time show horse for 20 years its not good on his brains to just stop.
 
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Right! It's she who is so curious (supposedly). Why should you even have to consider paying for her "research" to satisfy her personal curiosity.

Because . . . vets are crooks
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I've sure met some real money-grubbing ones who put money before the welfare of my dog. The vast majority are good people though.
 

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