Anyone that knows Jesus, knows you can talk to him about anything. The problem with most folks is that they can't shut up long enough to listen.
how in the heck are we supposed to live these days
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mom'sfolly :
We also have to make change to communities that won't allow clothes lines, solar panels, gray water recycling etc because they don't like they way they look.
We need more bicycle friendly steets. My husband rides to work fairly regularly and add 50% more miles biking than driving in the attempt to find safer routes.
We needs governments that realize that subsidizing good public transportation is no different than subsidizing roads.
We need people who care enough to make the changes happen.
Good post. The problem is that most people won't "care enough" until there's a financial incentive. I actually see that as the bright side of high oil prices.
We also have to make change to communities that won't allow clothes lines, solar panels, gray water recycling etc because they don't like they way they look.
We need more bicycle friendly steets. My husband rides to work fairly regularly and add 50% more miles biking than driving in the attempt to find safer routes.
We needs governments that realize that subsidizing good public transportation is no different than subsidizing roads.
We need people who care enough to make the changes happen.
Good post. The problem is that most people won't "care enough" until there's a financial incentive. I actually see that as the bright side of high oil prices.
Oblio
Read closely, I said I believe in "IN CONSERVATION AND USING OUR GOD GIVEN RESOURCES".
The two in my mind are not incompatible.
Read closely, I said I believe in "IN CONSERVATION AND USING OUR GOD GIVEN RESOURCES".
The two in my mind are not incompatible.
Mom's Folly:
Our kids built a couple of solar oven last year for science fair. You can find lots of plans via google. My favorite to use is a rectangular box, spraypainted black with an old cake pan in the bottom. A sheet of plexiglass goes on top & sometimes I put foil around the edges, but mostly just sitting the black box in the sun with the plexiglass can get easily into the 200 degree range in the summer here. Last year, I used regular baking pans to make things, but this year I'm going to use the cast iron, I think. It just takes longer to plan & a little more time to cook, but it is FREE!!!
I do put an oven thermometer in it alongside the food to keep track of the temperature.
Good luck!!
Our kids built a couple of solar oven last year for science fair. You can find lots of plans via google. My favorite to use is a rectangular box, spraypainted black with an old cake pan in the bottom. A sheet of plexiglass goes on top & sometimes I put foil around the edges, but mostly just sitting the black box in the sun with the plexiglass can get easily into the 200 degree range in the summer here. Last year, I used regular baking pans to make things, but this year I'm going to use the cast iron, I think. It just takes longer to plan & a little more time to cook, but it is FREE!!!
I do put an oven thermometer in it alongside the food to keep track of the temperature.
Good luck!!
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Even though Jesus is the most popular god here, he's certainly not the one to talk to specifically about oil.
I don't know, it could all be gone in the blink of an eye!
I just talked to my uncle, he had to get fuel oil. He paid $4.60 a gallon. It cost them $690.00 for 150 gallons of oil. That was the least amount they could get.
Even though Jesus is the most popular god here, he's certainly not the one to talk to specifically about oil.
I don't know, it could all be gone in the blink of an eye!
I just talked to my uncle, he had to get fuel oil. He paid $4.60 a gallon. It cost them $690.00 for 150 gallons of oil. That was the least amount they could get.
Anyone else thinking that the Amish have the right idea here?- I'm scared also for us all and I feel bad for everyone that it has already affected- we are all scared- hence all the uproar- no one likes change- but as others have said- we will either change and adapt- or die- the no groceries is scary- because I can see it happening- and I'm not prepared- nor do I have the money to get prepared- my entire paycheck goes out as soon as it gets in- and I can't help but be a little depressed- because- I know it's only going to get worse- I can do w/o all the luxuries that I have- but food Water and shelter- I guess we'll see when we get there
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I don't think my warning qualifies the tag of being called, "ridiculous." I've read a lot of ridiculous statements on this and other message boards and I'm offended that you think that my pointing out the caveats of horse owning is "ridiculous."
My point isn't to keep people from buying horses--it's to enlightened them to the growin scarcity of hay. Here in Texas at lot of people were out of hay because these super large cattle ranches who needed hay would buy entire crops of hay from the growers before it was even cut. They bought it whether or not the hay was harvested. Owners of one, two or even dozens of horses couldn't compete with the cattle ranches who were feeding 1000's and 1000's of cows. The risk of losing cash from one farmer's failed harvest was worth it in order to get first crack at all future crops. Supply and demand at it's finest.
I really did not mean to offend you really. What I meant to say is not every horse owner has a farm or ample pasture for their horses to graze on. Even if they did would it give them the nutrution they need? I doubt it. That does not mean they are not good or responsible horse owners. Here in pa we do not have the hay shortage you have in texas or the south. I buy hay for 3.50 bale which is alfalfa/orchard and timothy.(50lbs) I have uncles in texas and they tell me about the scarcity of the hay and the starving cattle they see. I agree there is alot of neglect with horses in the industry, with one being too many babies born just for the sake of being born. That said I'm not going say anymore because this post is not about that.
I don't think my warning qualifies the tag of being called, "ridiculous." I've read a lot of ridiculous statements on this and other message boards and I'm offended that you think that my pointing out the caveats of horse owning is "ridiculous."
My point isn't to keep people from buying horses--it's to enlightened them to the growin scarcity of hay. Here in Texas at lot of people were out of hay because these super large cattle ranches who needed hay would buy entire crops of hay from the growers before it was even cut. They bought it whether or not the hay was harvested. Owners of one, two or even dozens of horses couldn't compete with the cattle ranches who were feeding 1000's and 1000's of cows. The risk of losing cash from one farmer's failed harvest was worth it in order to get first crack at all future crops. Supply and demand at it's finest.
I really did not mean to offend you really. What I meant to say is not every horse owner has a farm or ample pasture for their horses to graze on. Even if they did would it give them the nutrution they need? I doubt it. That does not mean they are not good or responsible horse owners. Here in pa we do not have the hay shortage you have in texas or the south. I buy hay for 3.50 bale which is alfalfa/orchard and timothy.(50lbs) I have uncles in texas and they tell me about the scarcity of the hay and the starving cattle they see. I agree there is alot of neglect with horses in the industry, with one being too many babies born just for the sake of being born. That said I'm not going say anymore because this post is not about that.
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Sometimes my comic genius doesn't translate well to the typewritten medium.
I was making a joke about which gods gave us the oil resources - Allah in the middle east and Wodan in the North Atlantic. We'll have to invoke South American deities like Quetzalcoatl if Venezuela gets with the program, and Eskimo and Inuit gods if we drill in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.
Sometimes my comic genius doesn't translate well to the typewritten medium.
I was making a joke about which gods gave us the oil resources - Allah in the middle east and Wodan in the North Atlantic. We'll have to invoke South American deities like Quetzalcoatl if Venezuela gets with the program, and Eskimo and Inuit gods if we drill in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.
A good bit of information about Plug-in Hybrids can be found at Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_hybrid
Using the grid, the cost to power a plug-in hybrid is 1/4 the cost of gasoline (and that was at the time this article was written - I read it quite some time ago). With solar panels on the roof, one can certainly guess that it'll eventually cost less than that. Yes, there is the problem of the cost of the solar panels, but that's a whole 'nuther issue.
Read further in the article, to the section titled, "Patent encumbrance of NiMH batteries" and you'll see that Big Oil has already gotten it's paws on the technology.
No, it's not a perfect system, but Plug-in Hybrids are probably the best short term solution.
- The technology already exists.
- It's a familiar transition for most of our citizens.
- It's said that if we changed over to P-I Hybrids, our consumption would decrease by 9 million barrels a day, or 70% of our current imports.
No, it's not going to solve the problem, but the sad thing is that no one thing will. This may very well be the best way to start down that path.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_hybrid
Using the grid, the cost to power a plug-in hybrid is 1/4 the cost of gasoline (and that was at the time this article was written - I read it quite some time ago). With solar panels on the roof, one can certainly guess that it'll eventually cost less than that. Yes, there is the problem of the cost of the solar panels, but that's a whole 'nuther issue.
Read further in the article, to the section titled, "Patent encumbrance of NiMH batteries" and you'll see that Big Oil has already gotten it's paws on the technology.
No, it's not a perfect system, but Plug-in Hybrids are probably the best short term solution.
- The technology already exists.
- It's a familiar transition for most of our citizens.
- It's said that if we changed over to P-I Hybrids, our consumption would decrease by 9 million barrels a day, or 70% of our current imports.
No, it's not going to solve the problem, but the sad thing is that no one thing will. This may very well be the best way to start down that path.
Oblio,
Mia culpa (or however you say forgive me).
I agree, there are many gods to many peoples, and at this point in our human progression we need to appeal to ALL for intercession.
Mia culpa (or however you say forgive me).
I agree, there are many gods to many peoples, and at this point in our human progression we need to appeal to ALL for intercession.
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