How NOT To Handle A Horse

[Chickengal505]

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I was just watching it on full screen, and I think thats his mane

Good lord, even if that isn't his mane it needs some SEROUS grooming

 

[zippitydooda]

I trained horses for over 25 years, and while whips are not an uncommon tool in the industry, I've never used them. My methods are more about repetition and rewards. Horses are much more intelligent than most people think, and they have fabulous memory. Because of this, they can be trained with love, kindness and gentleness. Humans ask animals to to human tricks, and then think they (the humans) are the smart ones. In reality, it is the animal that is the smart one. My methods may take longer, but they get consistent results.

I agree that the boy in the video needs some serious grooming.

 

[arabianequine]

I wonder if he was sedated before working with him. That might explain the way he is walking and why seems so calm.

 

[Elite Silkies]

I trained my stallion with a long whip that I attached a walmart sack to so I could get him used to being touched. I never whipped him with it, but I sure wanted to when he kicked me.

I didn't think she was abusing the horse, but I think she was being a little to lax around a stallion. I learned real quick with my stallion, not to get to comfortable, you will get hurt.

It didn't look to me that she was hitting him hard with her elbows, just hard enough to back him up. He seemed to have a nipping problem.

 

[Redcatcher]

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I was just watching it on full screen, and I think thats his mane

Good lord, even if that isn't his mane it needs some SEROUS grooming

This is what I am referring to

 

[4Hchickenproject]

Arabians are my breed of choice. Although this is a beautiful horse (they all are!), I don't find him to be either show-quality or stallion-quality. He should be a gelding. From reading the caption below the video, "This video shows how professional show-training influences a horse so that even after a period of 15 years without that, certain triggers can cause a rapid change in mood and behaviour. The first part of the video shows how nice and friendly the stallion behaves, and then towards the end you can realize the rapid change due to the whip," I get the impression this is an older horse (over 15 yrs old anyway) that has not been faced with "training" in over 15 years, yet he is still easily rattled by popular "training" methods. And yes, he is somewhat stiff, perhaps from an old lameness or injury.

Popular training for Arabians was to irritate them just prior to entering the show ring in order to add a little umph! to their movement, putting them on high alert- head, ears and tail up, eyes wide, nostrils flared, a little bounce to their step. An Arabian of good breeding would show these qualities naturally, IMO, and need no irritation.

Regardless, I think this woman's video shows little beyond her inability to properly handle a horse.

Several times I see her put herself in dangerous positions and do lazy, irresponsible things that certainly could result in injury. If nothing else, this video shows a stallion of excellent temperament. She states that he gets highly irritated and responds.... well, duh, she's irritating him! Probably has nothing to do with any previous training! Heck, I'd bite at her too if she kept poking and swiping me. Stallions tend to be "mouthy" as this one shows, and that has nothing to do with training (unless it gets out of hand and becomes a vice) and has everything to do with hormones and nature. And even then, the stallion really is quite even-tempered, all things considered.

Alas, someone has touched a nerve! I could go on for days... but I won't.

 

[Jasmine1998]

This reminds me of a Parelli person who came to buy a quarter horse we had. They bought the horse & then she spent forever doing this to the horse with her "carrot stick" & kept doing it till he started licking... we honestly were wondering if they were ever even going to get on the horse. Being a quarter horse he just stood there & looked bored with everything. I think any of my Arabs after a length of time of that may..not being mean or spiteful but just as a "hey, enough already" or because they got bored.

 

[welsummerchicks]

The 'streaks' are not 'cuts' or mane, the horse is just filthy dirty and it's white so dirt shows on it.

if the video was taken recently, the horse has a lot of coat on it and would really be suffering in the heat.

I don't like seeing a dirty horse, but that's a matter of taste - a heavy coated horse in 100 degree heat isn't a matter of taste, it's abuse. If the horse is keeping his coat due to untreated health problems, he needs medical treatment. In any case he needs to be clipped, as quite a few older horses need in the summer.

No, I don't assume every time I see a quiet horse that the horse was sedated.

And stallions are just as varied in temperament as any other horse. The approach has to be adjusted to the horse in every case.

And the comments on the video are ridiculous, the video doesn't show what she is trying to claim or prove at all. The way she uses the whip is so clumsy and poorly thought out - she just looks like a beginner.

Yep, this exactly is why I don't board, so I don't have to watch the 'cinder blocks in the ring' people with the 'training philosophies' who think they are doing something super special. And at least once a day, one of those horses got loose and ran all over the farm or a rider fell off and got hurt.

 

[Celtic Hill]

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Seriously, This is the reason why I hate "Natural Horsemanship"

 

[chickenzoo]

To me it looks like someone who has no idea of what she is doing, with a very dirty horse. She should be using the whip as only an extension of her hand, to give direction or encouragement to move.... but she doesn't even know what she is doing, so of course the horse isn't going to have a clue. She shouldn't even be working with a stallion of any kind if she doesn't have her lessons down. All the stuff in the pen is suppose to be tools for training- barrels, jump blocks etc.... but it looks pretty cluttered in there.