I have had 1 pip at 19 and hatch on 20, none over 21 this fall I am on my 4th hatch, all have piped on 20 and hatched on 21 . I incubate in 2 dedicated incubators and hacth in a GQF hatcher. Last spring I did the home made foam cooler bators with water heater thermostat and had bad luck. The themostat just is to undependable. 1 spike and you are done .all shipped eggs, except 1 pick up, This fall all eggs from the ones that I did hatch. I have hatched 100 percent of the fertille eggs that I set. these are welsummer and Black copper , blue copper and splash Marans.I have some shipped eggs in right now, 1 group all clear, other group most are developing. all the eggs from my chickens with them are developing. I have not had a shrink wrap, or drowned or any other malady that I had with shipped eggs. I am convinced that the nutrition of the hens has about 75 percent to do with the hatch, and the rest is the incubation process. You need a steady incubator.