It can be used on all types of fowl.
How to identify different types of mites?
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Hi Jennifer.
Just wanted to mention that I live in Nor Cal also... I guess winter is lice time. But I had been searching my roost for mites, with suspicion of course... only to come back empty every time. Now come to find out, mentioned by my vet... Northern Fowl Mites are notorious up here! And they can become resistant to the Permethrin according to this article...
http://extension.psu.edu/animals/po...entations/2012/egg-layer-program/mite-control
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It can be used on all types of fowl.
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OK thanks. Ill treat my ducks too.
Thanks ill definitely read it. Ibe heard of the northern fowl mites as well in our area. I read chickens can die from them if not caught in time. Thats why i was trying to figure out what kind of mite we have. I have really had the worst luck. Every friendi have keeps chickens. Grew up in a farming community. Finally able to get my own chickens and been one thing after another. Lice, mites etc.. Not sure why. I clean my coops often. Give my chickens fresh water and food daily. Also get vitamins and probiotics regularly. I've wormed them regularly with ivermectin. Yet still keep having things happen. Notbsure it this is a sign from god or what... Praying its not cause i love this. Always have. Been waiting for years to finally be able tobhabe my own and now all this.. So frustrating..
If you find you have mites as well, and the 5 ml per quart doesn't work, try doubling the concentrate to 10 ml per quart.
@jenniferlamar70 I'm under the impression that Ivermectin also kills the mites that cause scaly legs. In fact, I used it once via the vet to get rid of the mites that cause 1 type of mange... ineffectively and had to do other things. Just sharing info to consider.
Also, I haven't researched it much because I don't worm... but I know they can build a resistance as well to some (maybe all?) drugs.
As for signs from God, let me remind you... The devil is a thief and a liar. He came only to steal, kill, and destroy!
Poultry keeping is a very dynamic thing and what works for your friend even right next door might not work for you... And that's OK, keep trying until you find your happy medium. For example, the Ivermectin works for many people and their animals... but my dog has her own unique set of genetics or body chemistry and it didn't. Maybe another, Some people can't wear the same perfume, it just smells different. Good on one but not so much the other.
Yep, Satan want to steal the joy out of the blessing that chicken keeping is. And he won't mess with those who already belong to him but only those he is still trying to bring down. Stay strong. Just keep trying (and praying) till you get it worked out. And when it all comes together, it's just so amazing!
It's better and cheaper than therapy, drugs, or the gym in the ways it benefits both my physical and mental health. Of course chicken keeping will have it's heartache. That's how we know we care and without the pain in life we would be so complacent about all the glories and blessings. Somethings gotta keep us humble.
Best wishes!
People are misled when they think lice like dirty places. They like it clean!
Also, I haven't researched it much because I don't worm... but I know they can build a resistance as well to some (maybe all?) drugs.
As for signs from God, let me remind you... The devil is a thief and a liar. He came only to steal, kill, and destroy!
Poultry keeping is a very dynamic thing and what works for your friend even right next door might not work for you... And that's OK, keep trying until you find your happy medium. For example, the Ivermectin works for many people and their animals... but my dog has her own unique set of genetics or body chemistry and it didn't. Maybe another, Some people can't wear the same perfume, it just smells different. Good on one but not so much the other.
Yep, Satan want to steal the joy out of the blessing that chicken keeping is. And he won't mess with those who already belong to him but only those he is still trying to bring down. Stay strong. Just keep trying (and praying) till you get it worked out. And when it all comes together, it's just so amazing!
Best wishes!
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I'm under the impression that Ivermectin also kills the mites that cause scaly legs. In fact, I used it once via the vet to get rid of the mites that cause 1 type of mange... ineffectively and had to do other things. Just sharing info to consider.
People are misled when they think lice like dirty places. They like it clean!
Also, I haven't researched it much because I don't worm... but I know they can build a resistance as well to some (maybe all?) drugs.
As for signs from God, let me remind you... The devil is a thief and a liar. He came only to steal, kill, and destroy!
Poultry keeping is a very dynamic thing and what works for your friend even right next door might not work for you... And that's OK, keep trying until you find your happy medium. For example, the Ivermectin works for many people and their animals... but my dog has her own unique set of genetics or body chemistry and it didn't. Maybe another, Some people can't wear the same perfume, it just smells different. Good on one but not so much the other.
Yep, Satan want to steal the joy out of the blessing that chicken keeping is. And he won't mess with those who already belong to him but only those he is still trying to bring down. Stay strong. Just keep trying (and praying) till you get it worked out. And when it all comes together, it's just so amazing! :yiipchick It's better and cheaper than therapy, drugs, or the gym in the ways it benefits both my physical and mental health. Of course chicken keeping will have it's heartache. That's how we know we care and without the pain in life we would be so complacent about all the glories and blessings. Somethings gotta keep us humble.
Best wishes!
Aww your right. I definitely love them. I do appreciate having them. In just want to finally get to enjoy them. I am humbled though and your right. No way to appreciate the good without first enduring the bad. Ill keep treking on. Hopefully god will grant me this. In the meantime ill keep moving forward till i figure it out.
Quote: Avian Lice
Northern Fowl Mite
Source: http://veterinaryentomology.ucr.edu/northern_fowl_mite.html
Red Roost Mite
This is a good UC Davis article:
http://anrcatalog.ucanr.edu/pdf/8162.pdf
@jenniferlamar70 , don't beat yourself up, birds get lice and mites, it's no big deal. Try to figure out what they are, and keep in mind that some flocks will have more than one type of parasite present, and this is said to be common in backyard flocks (I'll try to find the study for you). Strip your coop and nesting boxes and spray them, and spray your birds. The permethrin spray has a very good residual effect, so I doubt you will have to repeat.
If you you find live bugs two days after spraying then you might have to think about using a different pesticide.
Edited to add: Study found, see next post.
If you you find live bugs two days after spraying then you might have to think about using a different pesticide.
Edited to add: Study found, see next post.
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Study done on Southern California backyard flocks:
Backyard Chickens Harbor Many Parasites
UC Riverside researchers find backyard chickens are infested by a greater diversity of mites and lice than cage-raised chickens
By Sean Nealon On JANUARY 11, 2016
A backyard chicken with sticktight fleas.PHOTO CREDIT: AMY MURILLORIVERSIDE, Calif. (www.ucr.edu) — Backyard chickens may not live as good of a life as most people think.
Researchers at the University of California, Riverside have found backyard chickens are more likely than chickens on commercial chicken farms to be infested by ectoparasites, which are parasites such as fleas, lice and mites that live on the exterior of an organism. Their work was published online today in the Journal of Medical Entomology.
The research comes at a time when several states, including California, have banned or limited the use of isolated “battery cages” in favor of enriched cages or cage-free operations. The European Union has also banned battery cages. And a bill that would have banned those cages in the United States was introduced in Congress but failed to pass.
The researchers – Amy C. Murillo, a graduate student and Bradley A. Mullens, a professor of entomology – believe that these more open, cage-free or free-range type habitats increase the risk of acquisition and transmission of ectoparasites.
Such infestations increase stress on the chickens and may cause economic damage such as decreased egg production and feed conversion efficiency, the researchers note. The researchers also note that there is no risk to humans who eat eggs or the meat of infested chickens.
Bradley Mullens and Amy Murillo treating a backyard chicken.PHOTO CREDIT: ALEC YZAGUIRREThe researchers surveyed 100 adult hens in 20 different backyards in southern California and searched the birds and their coops for ectoparasites. They found a much greater diversity of ectoparasites on the backyard chickens than has been found in commercial flocks.
Ectoparasites were found on 80 percent of the flocks surveyed, and lice were the most common and abundant. Six different species of louse were found on the chickens, and some individual chickens had hundreds of lice. Sticktight fleas were found in only 20 percent of flocks, but infestations could be quite severe. The northern fowl mite was the most common mite, but the scaly leg mite and the chicken red mite were also found.
Commercial poultry flocks suffer from a few of the same ectoparasites. But most commercial birds presently are housed in suspended cages that give them little or no contact with the ground or substrate that immature stages of parasites such as fleas and some mites need to develop. In addition, these cages provide fewer crevices that might harbor ticks or bed bugs when they aren’t feeding on birds. Finally, birds in commercial flocks are generally all the same age and breed which may affect the suite of parasites that they host.
The results of this study suggest that some of the perks of being a backyard chicken, such as comfortable coops and access to the outdoors, also increase the birds’ availability to ectoparasites. According to Murillo, many of the chicken owners that participated in this study were surprised to learn that their chickens had ectoparasites, and almost none of the owners were practicing parasite prevention.
With that in mind, she recommends backyard chicken owners focus on preventing ectoparasite infestations because control products are limited. Chicken owners should practice biosecurity, which includes excluding wild birds and other animals from coming into contact with the flock, limiting the addition of new birds to the flock, temporarily quarantining birds that are brought into the flock and limiting outsider visitation (many of these parasites can hitchhike on people or equipment).
If a chicken owner decides to use insecticides, she said to make sure to read and follow the label. The label is the law, and helps prevent unsafe insecticide exposure. If products not meant for use on laying hens are used, chicken owners risk exposure to insecticides when consuming the eggs or meat from the birds.
Further study of the ectoparasite community on backyard chickens in the U.S. will be necessary to develop safe and effective parasite prevention and treatment techniques, and the UCR researchers are also working on this.
The full article is called “Diversity and Prevalence of Ectoparasites on Backyard Chicken Flocks in California.”
Source: https://ucrtoday.ucr.edu/34009
Backyard Chickens Harbor Many Parasites
UC Riverside researchers find backyard chickens are infested by a greater diversity of mites and lice than cage-raised chickens
By Sean Nealon On JANUARY 11, 2016
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A backyard chicken with sticktight fleas.PHOTO CREDIT: AMY MURILLO
Researchers at the University of California, Riverside have found backyard chickens are more likely than chickens on commercial chicken farms to be infested by ectoparasites, which are parasites such as fleas, lice and mites that live on the exterior of an organism. Their work was published online today in the Journal of Medical Entomology.
The research comes at a time when several states, including California, have banned or limited the use of isolated “battery cages” in favor of enriched cages or cage-free operations. The European Union has also banned battery cages. And a bill that would have banned those cages in the United States was introduced in Congress but failed to pass.
The researchers – Amy C. Murillo, a graduate student and Bradley A. Mullens, a professor of entomology – believe that these more open, cage-free or free-range type habitats increase the risk of acquisition and transmission of ectoparasites.
Such infestations increase stress on the chickens and may cause economic damage such as decreased egg production and feed conversion efficiency, the researchers note. The researchers also note that there is no risk to humans who eat eggs or the meat of infested chickens.
Bradley Mullens and Amy Murillo treating a backyard chicken.PHOTO CREDIT: ALEC YZAGUIRRE
Ectoparasites were found on 80 percent of the flocks surveyed, and lice were the most common and abundant. Six different species of louse were found on the chickens, and some individual chickens had hundreds of lice. Sticktight fleas were found in only 20 percent of flocks, but infestations could be quite severe. The northern fowl mite was the most common mite, but the scaly leg mite and the chicken red mite were also found.
Commercial poultry flocks suffer from a few of the same ectoparasites. But most commercial birds presently are housed in suspended cages that give them little or no contact with the ground or substrate that immature stages of parasites such as fleas and some mites need to develop. In addition, these cages provide fewer crevices that might harbor ticks or bed bugs when they aren’t feeding on birds. Finally, birds in commercial flocks are generally all the same age and breed which may affect the suite of parasites that they host.
The results of this study suggest that some of the perks of being a backyard chicken, such as comfortable coops and access to the outdoors, also increase the birds’ availability to ectoparasites. According to Murillo, many of the chicken owners that participated in this study were surprised to learn that their chickens had ectoparasites, and almost none of the owners were practicing parasite prevention.
With that in mind, she recommends backyard chicken owners focus on preventing ectoparasite infestations because control products are limited. Chicken owners should practice biosecurity, which includes excluding wild birds and other animals from coming into contact with the flock, limiting the addition of new birds to the flock, temporarily quarantining birds that are brought into the flock and limiting outsider visitation (many of these parasites can hitchhike on people or equipment).
If a chicken owner decides to use insecticides, she said to make sure to read and follow the label. The label is the law, and helps prevent unsafe insecticide exposure. If products not meant for use on laying hens are used, chicken owners risk exposure to insecticides when consuming the eggs or meat from the birds.
Further study of the ectoparasite community on backyard chickens in the U.S. will be necessary to develop safe and effective parasite prevention and treatment techniques, and the UCR researchers are also working on this.
The full article is called “Diversity and Prevalence of Ectoparasites on Backyard Chicken Flocks in California.”
Source: https://ucrtoday.ucr.edu/34009
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