How to make Non silkie fibro white chicken?

[sylviethecochin]

Nevermind. Yes. That looks like blue. Blue, like dominant white, is a mutation of Black. All three colours function on an Extended Black background. (So does Lavender, if you're interested. And you can always add some barring. [BYC does not have a *wink-wink* animation])

So it sounds like dominant white would be perfect, if you just plan on sticking with solid Extended Black colours.

Recessive white is also an option. It would take a little more time to see rewards, but it would work just as well as dominant white.

 

[Redhead Rae]

I saw someone who had fibro chickens with white feathers that are not silkies, I can't remember where though. I'm looking.

 

[sylviethecochin]

Dominant white

Pros:

First Generation results.
You'll always be able to tell if a parent carries it.
Easy to breed for or to eliminate.

Cons:

May show some leakage.



Recessive White:

Pros:

Has a fibromelanistic parent ready-made.
No leakage. Ever,

Cons:

Pretty much impossible to tell whether an animal carries it unless they have two copies.
Impossible to eliminate, requires careful genetic tracking to produce (unless willing to maintain an all-white gene pool)
May hide pattern genes that you don't want. Especially if you're breeding for black and blue.

 

[Redhead Rae]

I saw someone who had fibro chickens with white feathers that are not silkies, I can't remember where though. I'm looking.

Sorry, can't find what I was looking for. I'll try again tomorrow.

 

[Elsveta641]

My roos currently breeding are a black Ayam Cemani/Cochin/OE cross and a White Leghorn. They are over hens who are pure of each: Ayam Cemani, White Jersey Giant, Black Australorp, White Bresse. Also have hens who are solid white EE and blue EE. I'd like to eliminate any patterns eventually, I'm getting some faint bars and lacing in some chicks. It's a mess considering I only know cat genetics haha

 

[sylviethecochin]

My roos currently breeding are a black Ayam Cemani/Cochin/OE cross and a White Leghorn. They are over hens who are pure of each: Ayam Cemani, White Jersey Giant, Black Australorp, White Bresse. Also have hens who are solid white EE and blue EE. I'd like to eliminate any patterns eventually, I'm getting some faint bars and lacing in some chicks. It's a mess considering I only know cat genetics haha

The barring and lacing may be the beginning of proper, show-type lacing (As in Andalusians)

It's caused by Pg and Ml, I think. Not really something I'd want to get rid of, if I were you.

Try this site:
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

[sylviethecochin]

JGs are recessive white.

Bresse are dominant white. So are White Leghorns.

I think I'd eliminate the JG hen from your breeding program.

 

[Elsveta641]

That's a shame, I was using them for size mostly. Would black JG be a better choice to keep the size advantage going? You are very helpful, thank you so much

 

[Elsveta641]

I'm starting to second guess, reading all you've told me, the birds I planned to add to the mix this spring. I have black Liege Fighters, White O-Shamos and some Barbezieux I wanted to incorporate and cut out the EE/OE because who knows what's in their backgrounds lol

 

[sylviethecochin]

That's a shame, I was using them for size mostly. Would black JG be a better choice to keep the size advantage going? You are very helpful, thank you so much

You're welcome!

Yes, a Black (or Blue) JG would certainly carry the E/E (solid colour) background you want.

So what are you aiming for anyway? A large meat-bird, primarily?

EDT: incidentally, as cyprus pointed out earlier, you'll want to use white skin for best expression of fibro. JGs have yellow skin. So if you can substitute with a white-skinned meatbird, that would be better.