How to use the whole animal (waste not want not)

[hennible]

Well waste not want not... When a bird is taken down by dog, why not butcher her? If it's mostly intact and you move fast there's a lot you can use... Today a dog took out a buff brahma hen age 3... I moved pretty quick, got the water on plucked etc...

As you can see we have puncture wounds and bruising, some blood under the skin. I asked around on BYC, the consensus was to cook her immediately so bacteria introduced by the dog wasn't left to multiply. The other option was immediate freezing. Roasted her hot and fast then I got out the soup pot. Shes a little tough, not a lot of meat but lots of fat. Feathers in the compost meaty guts to the dogs ( not the attacker ).
For your future health it's not likely advisable to do this if it is a wild predator or strange dog, rabies could be a concern in those cases as it is transmitted by saliva.

Any how, all her fat got me thinking about schmaltz ( Schmaltz, also spelled schmalz or shmalz, is rendered/clarified chicken or goose fat used for frying or as a spread on bread in German, Austrian, Polish, and, by historical extension, Ashkenazi Jewish cuisine.)
So here is a link to a recipe and step by step instructions
http://www.sadiesalome.com/recipes/schmaltz.html

 

[MuskokaMaiden]

Thanks Perchie Girl...its a funky chicken for sure

 

[Beour3rd]

Quote: but you're cooking the bird. would rabies even be a worry?? this chicken didn't bite you. nor did the dog.

 

[hennible]

Just a precaution. I will look into it further.

 

[Beour3rd]

I've never had a problem with it. feather picking is usually caused by lack of protein or confinement.

i quite like that one. much easier than composting. the birds actually eat them?

 

[Beour3rd]

Just a precaution. I will look into it further.

this may be a retarded question.

but what can you do about the black marks in the pores? from black feathering? i noticed them with this new breed im raising now. i was used to white birds and obviously this never happened. and we've gotten better at picking so that no black marks happen., BUT still some do. are there any tricks? kinda looks gross and hard to give the birds to friends with all those marks.

 

[hennible]

http://www.instructables.com/answers/Can-you-get-rabies-from-eating-the-meat-of-a-rabid/

Rabies Transmission
Saliva.
Because there is a lot of virus in the saliva of a rabid animal, salivary contact is the most prominent way of spreading rabies. This is mostly, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY from a bite or scratch from a rabid animal. It’s vital to remember that saliva is the agent of transmission. Let’s say a rabid fox comes into the yard and gets into a fight with your dog. The dog kills the fox, and you tend the dog. From the fight, the dog has saliva from the fox on its coat. By handling the dog, you transfer some of that saliva to your hand. If you have a cut or lesion on your hand, it might be possible for the virus to gain access to a peripheral nerve. Let’s say you have no cuts or contusions. Are you safe? Maybe, until you rub your eye with that hand. How about that barn cat that licks you? Working in the rabies necropsy lab, one of the most difficult things is to find something to scratch your nose with.

Rabid Meat.
Because an animal that died from rabies would have a lot of virus in its system, it would be possible to get rabies from handling an infected animal. Cooking would of course kill the virus, but let’s say a wolf found a carcass. If the meat made it into the stomach, the acids would kill the virus also, but if the wolf had a cut on its lip, a lesion on the throat, or anywhere the virus could get access to a nerve, it is possible to contract rabies that way.

Aerosol.
In some specific cases, in bat caves where there are a lot of bats and a lot of guano on the floor of the cave, where there is a lot of humidity and a warm moist air column, it is possible to get rabies by breathing it in.

Vertical Transmission.
This is a fancy term that means transferring the virus from parent to offspring. I did read a report that talked about possible genetic transfer of rabies in the Mexican Free-Tailed bat, but mostly scientists aren’t sure whether the virus is transferred from the mother licking the young to keep them clean. Here you’re back to saliva.

From this site
http://www.wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/health/rabies.html

So from this it seems the concern is in handling of the carcass not it the consumption of the cooked flesh. So if you choose to do this use caution while processing. Wear gloves and take care not to touch you face....

 

[hennible]

this may be  a retarded question.

but what can you do about the black marks in the pores? from black feathering? i noticed them with this new breed im raising now. i was used to white birds and obviously this never happened. and we've gotten better at picking so that no black marks happen., BUT still some do. are there any tricks? kinda looks gross and hard to give the birds to friends with all those marks.

That's really interesting. I have yet to butcher a black bird so I have no real experience to offer... My first thought is that it's pigment, do you brine your birds before freezing or gifting them to friends? And if so does it make a difference?
I'm sure someone else knows what it is for certain. What is the breed?

Anyone with a trick for this?

 

[mymilliefleur]

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Yup. they love them. they can't eat the ''big feathers'' though, but they love scratching through them.

 

[mymilliefleur]

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Are you talking about the blood tubes from molting feathers? they can be tricky to get out.