Hurricane Advice

[Ursuline Chick]

As an RN I think we have the drug thing backwards. When people who are in real pain can't get the medication they need to be able to do the activities of daily living, I am afraid then they look for illegal ways to control their pain. IMO this is more likely to lead to addiction than using medication under a doctor's supervision.

 

[biophiliac]

As an RN I think we have the drug thing backwards. When people who are in real pain can't get the medication they need to be able to do the activities of daily living, I am afraid then they look for illegal ways to control their pain. IMO this is more likely to lead to addiction than using medication under a doctor's supervision.

Very true and from a public health perspective, the current policy is insane. imo

 

[biophiliac]

I can understand why doctors are hesitant to write for too many though. I've had several of the "Pill Mill" doctors in the prison where I work on 5 year sentences for peddling the things. Don't know what the deciding point it, but apparently they didn't either. These were fairly nice people, just happened to be doctors prescribing addictive drugs.

Yes, MDs who resort to opioids first for convenience or profit or simply due to marketing by manufacturers are a problem, not those who prescribe it to patients with intractable pain, for whom other treatments have failed.

 

[pennyJo1960]

As an RN I think we have the drug thing backwards. When people who are in real pain can't get the medication they need to be able to do the activities of daily living, I am afraid then they look for illegal ways to control their pain. IMO this is more likely to lead to addiction than using medication under a doctor's supervision.

isn't that how it all starts my Dr. could loose his license for prescribing a drug that should not be on the opiod list, tramadol was not on the list to start when the screaming started they where afraid for what they had caused and dragged it with

Yes, MDs who resort to opiods first for convenience or profit or simply due to marketing by manufacturers are a problem, not those who prescribe it to patients with intractable pain, for whom other treatments have failed.

morphine codien yes they need to be monitored I can understand that

 

[Kiki]

hmm

 

[Ursuline Chick]

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Too funny, according to the map you use dressing and I use stuffing, , We know that's wrong, cause we just discussed it!!. I love how you can get statistics to say pretty much what ever you want. You just need to find the right study!

 

[Peeps61]

As an RN I think we have the drug thing backwards. When people who are in real pain can't get the medication they need to be able to do the activities of daily living, I am afraid then they look for illegal ways to control their pain. IMO this is more likely to lead to addiction than using medication under a doctor's supervision.

I totally agree with you! I am not anti-meds by any means. People who bend the rules for their own selfish reasons and then get addicted have only themselves to blame. However, they cause problems for the rest of us too, so it's everyone's responsibility to see to it that people aren't abusing the system.

We have a number of addicts in our community - mostly meth. They will steal everything that isn't locked up or chained down to feed their habit. Really, really sad to see lives destroyed by such poison.

 

[Peeps61]

Yes, MDs who resort to opioids first for convenience or profit or simply due to marketing by manufacturers are a problem, not those who prescribe it to patients with intractable pain, for whom other treatments have failed.

Agreed. However, the axe falls on ALL doctors that prescribe these meds now that they are under the national telescope. Right or wrong, the responsible doctors are fearful of writing prescriptions too liberally since they might come under suspicion. We had two doctors in Jay, FL who were arrested and charged with abusing their medical privileges by writing too many prescriptions for opioid painkillers. About 18 months later, they were aquitted, but in the meantime, their practice was closed and they were not allowed to work. The community suffered as well since it was a small farming community and the people had to drive long distances to get medical care, instead of having it available within a few miles of their homes. Sad all around.

 

[biophiliac]

Agreed. However, the axe falls on ALL doctors that prescribe these meds now that they are under the national telescope. Right or wrong, the responsible doctors are fearful of writing prescriptions too liberally since they might come under suspicion. We had two doctors in Jay, FL who were arrested and charged with abusing their medical privileges by writing too many prescriptions for opioid painkillers. About 18 months later, they were aquitted, but in the meantime, their practice was closed and they were not allowed to work. The community suffered as well since it was a small farming community and the people had to drive long distances to get medical care, instead of having it available within a few miles of their homes. Sad all around.

Yes, I agree. Doctors who are prescribing correctly are swept up in the hysteria.

Added- And their patients suffer also.

 

[Ursuline Chick]

I totally agree with you! I am not anti-meds by any means. People who bend the rules for their own selfish reasons and then get addicted have only themselves to blame. However, they cause problems for the rest of us too, so it's everyone's responsibility to see to it that people aren't abusing the system.

We have a number of addicts in our community - mostly meth. They will steal everything that isn't locked up or chained down to feed their habit. Really, really sad to see lives destroyed by such poison.

Oh yes you are preaching to the choir. The damage these people do to themselves and others is shamefull. IMO one of the worst things they steal from others is the ability to live a somewhat normal life with chronic pain. Then the damage that they are doing to their own bodies is awful. We have had problems with young men in gangs shooting eachother, these young men make it sound so romantic in song truth is when you are shot as a young person and are paralized for the rest of your life, people start to forget about you as time passes. I have taken care of young men in their mid 20's, who can do nothing for themselves, they need help with all the regular parts of life. I have taken care of them for weeks in ICU and the saddest part of all is that NO ONE comes to visit them.