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[Judy]

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It makes a world of difference if your intent is to deter them. Leave that garbage available and they return without a doubt and look for more...

I think that is why it makea a difference.

The reference to bears eating garbage was that they bears taste good unless they have been eating garbage.

 

[lalaland]

I have a bear that visits pretty much nightly - this is a big guy, as he can reach up to a peanut feeder that is 8 feet off the ground and NOT pull down the feeder, but just scrunch it up so it has a permanent handle. (yes, i almost always bring in all the feeders every night)

Last night I heard an incredible ruckus - sounded like a cat flying by with tin cans tied to it - I had a garden ornament (picture an old enamel pot lid, hanging by 3 wires, with a old tin measuring cup hanging under the lid like the ringer on a bell) which I had taken down and just left in a heap at the base of the feeder pole -

The bear must have stepped into it, been frightened by the noise, and took off running. This am I found the tin cup about 500 feet away, and am picturing the pot lid wired to the bear's paw. maybe this will scare him off for good?

 

[Judy]

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This is ridiculous. I would long since have called children's services if this were happening in my neighborhood, esp. if I had called the cops and nothing was done. There is something wrong if cops can walk away from a situation like that and the garbage remains unsecured.

 

[Zookeeper9000]

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Sorry but Mr. Smith & Mr. Wessen speaks loud and clear. Mr Bear goes in the ground care of Mr. Backhoe and on to meet his maker. The darn collar if it has a radio transmiter goes swimming in the little lake in Jamesburg, N. J.
I am used to some of the rules of the fish and game there. Didn't like them when I lived there and still don't.

Anytime a bear is around and you wait for some fool government agency, you are putting lives in danger. I could care less the outcome, NO BEAR
id eorth the life of my family or chickens.

I understand Panner and I would call someone for help as well. I have many bears here and see them daily. If they become a problem you can bet I would be calling and seeing who would do what. With our DNR if you get to the right one then they do something for you.

Right now seeing as they are behaving themselves it is a live and let live policy.

 

[Equus5O]

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This is ridiculous. I would long since have called children's services if this were happening in my neighborhood, esp. if I had called the cops and nothing was done. There is something wrong if cops can walk away from a situation like that and the garbage remains unsecured.

Generally speaking, garbage conditions are the domain of Code Enforcement and the Board of Health, not the Police Department. Conditions that are attracting nuisance bears are the domain of the Black Bear Response Unit.

If I were to respond to a call of a bear in the trash receptacle at that day care center or school, my response would be dictated by the totality of the circumstances. In the city where I work in, the trash receptacles are not kept within the playground area. However, if there are children in the area, they would be evacuated from that area and contained within the building. The Black Bear Response Unit would be contacted, and we would stand by and monitor the bear until the arrival of that unit. Unless life is in imminent danger, in my department, we are NOT TO SHOOT animals.

But I digress ... if I find horribly maintained trash receptacles that attract bear, I'll take a report and forward the information to the appropriate authority. Any further investigation and action would be undertaken by that authority, not by me, as a police officer.

The following link can describe for those that reside in states other than NJ how NJ handles bears.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/bearfacts_resandmgt.htm

 

[Judy]

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This is ridiculous. I would long since have called children's services if this were happening in my neighborhood, esp. if I had called the cops and nothing was done. There is something wrong if cops can walk away from a situation like that and the garbage remains unsecured.

Generally speaking, garbage conditions are the domain of Code Enforcement and the Board of Health, not the Police Department. Conditions that are attracting nuisance bears are the domain of the Black Bear Response Unit.

If I were to respond to a call of a bear in the trash receptacle at that day care center or school, my response would be dictated by the totality of the circumstances. In the city where I work in, the trash receptacles are not kept within the playground area. However, if there are children in the area, they would be evacuated from that area and contained within the building. The Black Bear Response Unit would be contacted, and we would stand by and monitor the bear until the arrival of that unit. Unless life is in imminent danger, in my department, we are NOT TO SHOOT animals.

But I digress ... if I find horribly maintained trash receptacles that attract bear, I'll take a report and forward the information to the appropriate authority. Any further investigation and action would be undertaken by that authority, not by me, as a police officer.

The following link can describe for those that reside in states other than NJ how NJ handles bears.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/bearfacts_resandmgt.htm

Delighted to hear that you would have DONE something; if referral was what you needed to do, fine. I did not intend to imply that this was the fault of the police officer, only that it should not have remained unaddressed by the appropriate authorities. We don't know where the ball got dropped in this case.

When I worked for a government agency, it was made clear to us that if we got a call that was not our responsibility, we were to find whose it was, and make sure the caller was connected with the correct agency. Sometimes this was time consuming. I find it very frustrating that not all government agencies work this way.

 

[MagsC]

Oh, that has GOT to be frustrating!!!!
We have bear occasionally come into town around here but its a minor problem compared to that.
When several people reported it here, the "higher up" insisted up, down and all across that "there are no BEAR around here!!" until a reporter photographed one on the golf course,lol

 

[saddina]

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This is ridiculous. I would long since have called children's services if this were happening in my neighborhood, esp. if I had called the cops and nothing was done. There is something wrong if cops can walk away from a situation like that and the garbage remains unsecured.

Generally speaking, garbage conditions are the domain of Code Enforcement and the Board of Health, not the Police Department. Conditions that are attracting nuisance bears are the domain of the Black Bear Response Unit.

If I were to respond to a call of a bear in the trash receptacle at that day care center or school, my response would be dictated by the totality of the circumstances. In the city where I work in, the trash receptacles are not kept within the playground area. However, if there are children in the area, they would be evacuated from that area and contained within the building. The Black Bear Response Unit would be contacted, and we would stand by and monitor the bear until the arrival of that unit. Unless life is in imminent danger, in my department, we are NOT TO SHOOT animals.

But I digress ... if I find horribly maintained trash receptacles that attract bear, I'll take a report and forward the information to the appropriate authority. Any further investigation and action would be undertaken by that authority, not by me, as a police officer.

The following link can describe for those that reside in states other than NJ how NJ handles bears.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/bearfacts_resandmgt.htm

I'm not suggesting shoot the bear next to a preschool class, but rather the state dept of ed, or children's services (whoever liscenses daycares in your state) need to be notified about the trash/bear situation. Especially as allowing the bear to associate food with the location of a child care center is endangering the kids.

 

[Equus5O]

I'm not suggesting shoot the bear next to a preschool class, but rather the state dept of ed, or children's services (whoever liscenses daycares in your state) need to be notified about the trash/bear situation. Especially as allowing the bear to associate food with the location of a child care center is endangering the kids.


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It's really not the jurisdiction of the Division of Youth and Family Services, the Department of Education, etc. I do understand what you're saying; don't get me wrong.

Garbage in and of itself falls under the jurisdiction of the municipality.

Garbage that incites bears falls under the jurisdiction of Fish Game and Wildlife.

I don't believe that an education agency or DYFS is going to take any action against a facility without an investigation by the department that has been designated to handle those complaints. Believe me, I call DYFS at least once a week, but I'm not going to call them because a day care center isn't properly maintaining their trash receptacles. If the trash is attracting wildlife, the proper department will be notified.

Rather than notify the local police department of bear and trash problems, notify the state. Not each and every officer in a local department may be aware of where to direct the call. Obviously, all of us here at BYC are online. Google Fish Game and Wildlife. The contact information is right there.

 

[thewarriorchild]

quote=Equus5OI'm not suggesting shoot the bear next to a preschool class, but rather the state dept of ed, or children's services (whoever liscenses daycares in your state) need to be notified about the trash/bear situation. Especially as allowing the bear to associate food with the location of a child care center is endangering the kids.


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It's really not the jurisdiction of the Division of Youth and Family Services, the Department of Education, etc. I do understand what you're saying; don't get me wrong.

Garbage in and of itself falls under the jurisdiction of the municipality.

Garbage that incites bears falls under the jurisdiction of Fish Game and Wildlife. "

Mostly it is seen by us after hours beacuse we are working.

According to the bear laws they should have been heavily fined by now, a simple lock/fence on the area would solve the problem. They are feeding the bears. It was back again today. It keeps coming back. Yesterday I was outside when it came around here and of course as soon as I got the video camera to document it, it dissapeared. I am going to document the heck out of this. Hopefully it won't end with a Blair Witch type drop of the camera. Everyone seems to be passing the buck on this issue this year. The cops never know who is going to make a stink and who isnt about the shooting of the bear. They come and honk and the bear comes by me or somewhere else nearby. It has two tags and a collar. One of them anyway, track it and get rid of it already. We are talking a daily visit by this bear, seen or not by us the garbage is always spilled out. I am tired of being afraid for my life and my daughters /families while just going to cars or water plants. It is SO early in the season. I have a feeling that it will be a long summer. I can not even go in my coop without my heart pounding because I am cornered unless I can fit my fat butt out a small window. Everything else is nailed shut to keep it out. Then I am cornered in the enclosed area. Normally I would head out at night to check on the little ones out there.

From the joke of a Bear info site..
"Information above adapted from the 2005 Comprehensive Black Bear Management Policy which was been suspended by former DEP Commissioner Lisa P. Jackson. "

What exactly does that mean?? The above isnt true?