I cannot believe what my neighbor did today.....

I tried asking for permission to kill one stupid person a day, but that didn't pan out. Just one....that's all I ask...really.....

Boy do I hearya on that one...

As for "joan" I can honestly say that her "strokes" have caused organic changes in the brain function...I know this because of my aunt and her strokes...

Noone touches my kid and comes out unscathed...the kid who clocked my kid with a rock screwing around got 3 days suspension in elementary school while Mike got stitches.
Another bunch were throwing things at him and one spit a loogie on him. We were at the school and got them all in school suspension for 3 days.
Another kid who should've known better ran over my son's backpack with his car and almost took HIM out too. He got turned in and there was a call made to the cops and the boy's father. He had to apologize, lost his driving privileges AND had to pay for a new backpack.

I'd talk to her children again and tell them what the hecks been going on...have the other parents and/or the cops call.​
 
Oh my goodness! Joan sounds crazy. I'm so sorry that you and your kids have to go through that. Hopefully she'll either calm down a bit (probably not going to happen) or she'll go/move/be taken somewhere else. Like I said, I'm so sorry that y'all have to go through that.
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My Step-Father is a Lt. in the Highway Patrol and in South Carolina she would have been taken in for questioning and the video taken of the children viewed as evidence untill the reason for doing it was found out. Futhermore she would have been held for verble abuse for screaming at your son if you would have pressed charges. NO adult is aloud to touch a child that is not their own for ANY type of reason or you will find yourself in jail around here.( My dads words not just mine) My Father was appauled that the officer in question didn't haul her in for that alone . The ONLY allowed contact between your son and her would have been if she was attacked and was deffending herself!!! Again that is the laws around here ,I'm not sure what your laws are there.

About her mental state , I have seen several cases as a CNA of what can happen to a person from strokes. Yes it does cause a shift in personality and as such her children should have been told by her doctor that such changes can and do happen very often and to be on watch for said happenings. The doctor can give some med's to help but they cannot repair the damage done to her brain only help with the after effects. I know because my own mother has had such happen to her and instead of becoming more agressive it has caused her to be forgetfull and she can't drive due to falling asleep at any given time without warning.She had three wrecks before we found out about it due to the last one almost killing her because she didn't live near us when the first two happened. We have since moved her near my brother and we drive for her now.

I know how much it hurts to see a friend become a stranger after a stroke but you have to think of your children and their safety first and by doing so you should listen to the people on here and stop trying to save her from herself. Your best way to help her is to contact the law and have them take care of the legal side of things which will be the only way for her Daughter to understand just have serious her condition has become since her strokes. Sometime we just don't want to see our parents as they truely are and it takes a serious wake-up call to get our attention, almost losing mine in a car wreck did it for me. Joan's daughter may not fully understand just how much her mother has changed untill she is forced to face the truth by you and your nieghbors actions in protecting yourselves and your children by having her arrested for what she has done.

I know some of you may think I'm being a little harsh but better she do whats needed now by having her arrested than wait until she actually hurts someone with her car, dog or just attacking one of the children. I say this from years of working with stroke patients they don't get better they get worse over time .
 
My Step-Father is a Lt. in the Highway Patrol and in South Carolina she would have been taken in for questioning and the video taken of the children viewed as evidence untill the reason for doing it was found out. Futhermore she would have been held for verble abuse for screaming at your son if you would have pressed charges. NO adult is aloud to touch a child that is not their own for ANY type of reason or you will find yourself in jail around here.( My dads words not just mine) My Father was appauled that the officer in question didn't haul her in for that alone . The ONLY allowed contact between your son and her would have been if she was attacked and was deffending herself!!! Again that is the laws around here ,I'm not sure what your laws are there.

About her mental state , I have seen several cases as a CNA of what can happen to a person from strokes. Yes it does cause a shift in personality and as such her children should have been told by her doctor that such changes can and do happen very often and to be on watch for said happenings. The doctor can give some med's to help but they cannot repair the damage done to her brain only help with the after effects. I know because my own mother has had such happen to her and instead of becoming more agressive it has caused her to be forgetfull and she can't drive due to falling asleep at any given time without warning.She had three wrecks before we found out about it due to the last one almost killing her because she didn't live near us when the first two happened. We have since moved her near my brother and we drive for her now.

I know how much it hurts to see a friend become a stranger after a stroke but you have to think of your children and their safety first and by doing so you should listen to the people on here and stop trying to save her from herself. Your best way to help her is to contact the law and have them take care of the legal side of things which will be the only way for her Daughter to understand just have serious her condition has become since her strokes. Sometime we just don't want to see our parents as they truely are and it takes a serious wake-up call to get our attention, almost losing mine in a car wreck did it for me. Joan's daughter may not fully understand just how much her mother has changed untill she is forced to face the truth by you and your nieghbors actions in protecting yourselves and your children by having her arrested for what she has done.

I know some of you may think I'm being a little harsh but better she do whats needed now by having her arrested than wait until she actually hurts someone with her car, dog or just attacking one of the children. I say this from years of working with stroke patients they don't get better they get worse over time .

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Hmm, this is an interesting situation. I have a few opinions.

First, kids will be kids. I'll go ahead and be the devil's advocate here and say that hey were wrong for digging on her property, whether they did that knowingly or unknowingly. So that should be accepted to have a logical and holistic view on the situation.

However, that does not excuse Joan's reaction. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and what she did was definitely wrong. She could either calmly talk to the kids about it, or maybe just knock on the front door of the kid's house and talk to the parents about it.

She definitely shouldn't touch your kids. Get the police involved on that one.

In my neck of the woods, videotaping in public is not a crime. In public, you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Does a person taking pictures downtown require the permission of everyone that was captured in the background? Do you need permission to set up video cameras to record the street in front of your house? The only issue here is regarding kids which is sensitive, but again, they have no reasonable expectation of privacy in the street.

Joan is in a bad situation with the possible brain damage, so she probably won't change the way she is, you can only change the way you all react to it. I also suggest building a fence to try and box her in the best you can, and just try to stay away from her as much as possible. If she does something illegal, just call the police (I know, they aren't a "fix it" button).
 
Filming children in our town will get ya 8 to 10 (had it happen).

Handling anyone is an assault, press charges

Talk to your P.A and get them to issue an order to have that lady checked out. Go as a neighborhood. Skip her kids you tried and it didn't work.

Smart hubby to get the kids out of that battle ground before he would talk.

We have had this happen in 2 different cases in and about our town (very small towns and hear everything). Act before this becomes a statistic like it did here, children were hurt bad and it could of been avoided if the neighborhood would of banned together to get these people help.

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Thanks for everyones comments! Things were a little calmer today, thank goodness.

I spoke to several of the parents today, and really tried to explain more about Joan's mental state. All of them were receptive to my comments. Since my husband and I seem to be the bleeding hearts in this nightmare, I have decided on this plan of action:

1. At the first sign of any trouble in the future, I will contact Joan's daughter myself, and speak with her rationally about her mother's issues. I plan on pleading with her to keep an open mind, and see things from OUR side, since her daughter has no kids and can't possibly know how we feel. I will give her the opportunity to seek help for her mom without any recourse from the 'posse' waiting in the wings.

2. However, if she is combative with me, and refuses to accept that HER MOTHER is the real problem, I will convey to her that I have no other choice than to protect my children....at any cost. Then I will encourage the 'posse' to handle their business as they see fit.

3. I will then call DHR, or whatever department that handles these situations, and begin reporting our personal confrontations with Joan. Hopefully, someone there will be as appalled as you all have been, and offer some help.

I really don't want to see this woman hauled away.....she is a mother and a grandmother, and she is loved..........but for the safety and stability of our community, something has to be done. I have resigned that fact just today.....
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Bless you all for caring.......I love BYC!
 
Glad to see that things were calmer today, and glad to know you have a plan of action. I hope for her sake that her kids decide to do a welfare check on their mom and actually realize how bad of shape their mom is in, if they choose to remain deluded, you can mention to them that if the "State" steps in and assumes custody of their mom, the "State " will most often assess her estate to recoup any costs that the "State" has to pay for her care. They will take her bank accounts, her property and any assets that they may deem valuable enough to sell in order to compensate them for the tender loving care that we all know the government so lovingly provides our seniors.
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If nothing else, the thought of not getting to pilliage her estate themselves when she passes away, will often bring even the most distant of children running, it sure brought my folks to the trough when my grandma got sick, and they won the dead relative lottery after they stuck my grandma in a nursing home, where if they had waited for her to die in her own home, they might have had to actually save for retirement,much like my grandma did her whole sweet life.(sorry a little cynical here)but lousy, greedy, relatives can work in your favor when you are a neighbor dealing with their aging and mentally infirm parent.
God bless you hun, hope you have a peaceful weekend and your kids are doing well.
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I was about to ask the same thing! A "couple of strokes" is a clue here. I've seen some very dear, sweet, little old ladies turn into hellcats after a stroke. I say someone should contact her family, or the county Health Dept. and express a few concerns. Not necessarily complaints, but some concerns about this person's health and safety. The behavior she is displaying is dangerous to her and to others...trespassing, stealing, destruction of property(spaying), assault.

If it were my mother or grandmother, I would want to know. If they know and they don't care, then they could be part of a negligence case. This woman needs to be saved from herself.
 
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