I cannot win. Mac has Parvo

[NancyDz]

Lots of prayers and good vibes going out for Mac! Hang in there!


Nancy

 

[walkswithdog]

Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers. Mac kept food down yesterday and today is frankly not shutting up.

I called the vet, you can hear her yammering her protests clearly in the background. As to chewing things... she's getting going alright, silly thing chewed out her IV twice. Ate overnight on her own, okay and rolled in it decorating herself.

She may be coming home today later this afternoon.

Unfortunately the owner bought shots from the Co-OP and it's notorious for not keeping vaccines refridgerated, and truth be told he might not have known to keep them cold or buy them cold.

I myself follow the Dodds Protocols for vaccination. The same schedual now the guidelines available from the veterinary schools.

While no vaccine is a guarantee vs disease, how they're shipped, stored and used makes a huge difference and too many people don't realized that when buying discount or their own vaccines or in dealing with Co-Ops and other sellers.

Yes, manufacturers make a difference. I prefer Neopar and Fort Dodge myself but Vets don't tend to carry either.

When possible I use single or double vaccines over the 5 or 7 way.

I don't vaccinate for what doesn't apply like lepto. Over-vaccination can be as dangerous to the dog as under, sometimes worse. Since vaccinosis can contribute to immune disorders and plays a role in canine cancer.

That's why the Vet Schools went to the Dodds Protocol. Another place for good vaccine information is to google Dr Schultz, who's been studying vaccines, vaccine protocols and their affects for 40 years.

He may very well have given a shot or shots to the puppies. Unfortunately without knowing their condition, it's impossible to say why there was a failure or if it's simply Mac being vulnerable.

I don't think the owner kept any record of who he sold pups to or gave them too and I don't think he can warn anyone who got them from him.

That makes me sad but they do it that way here all the time. It's more "getting rid of puppies" than it is sending them to homes and people who will care for them. Without records and contacts there's no way to warn buyers, and no way to know what happens to them.

I wish it were different, but the life I can affect now is Mac's and hopefully, starting today that includes coming home.

 

[SheriM]

My Aussie, Fynnigan, and a GSD pup we had at the same time got parvo at 10 weeks of age. They'd both had their first shot at 6 weeks and were due for their second shot the day they got sick. They were exposed when I, stupidly, brought home two yard-bred LGD's. I was losing goats left and right and, in panic, bought the first pups I could find. The funny thing is, the LGD pups were never very sick...just a bit of vomiting and depression I attributed to the sudden move from the farm of origin. It was a long, hard battle, but both Fynn and the GSD survived and I learned a VERY valuable lesson.

 

[walkswithdog]

I did have someone local say some of those guys LIE and don't vaccinate and figure either they survive or they don't - this was an LGD discussion. So your experience may hold a great deal of truth in this case.

She did not get as sick as the parvo pups I've worked with in the past. Not that half dead lying there, nobody home that you get with the severely ill ones.

I did catch it early but I have worked with diseased pups too often in the past not to know when it's not just the change of venue and the change in food.

I absolutely cannot feed the quality of food that guy was feeding his dogs. Ugh. The amount of food coloring alone was terrifying. And it was all to cover the fact that it was a bright yellow grain based feed. Could have fed it to the chickens, nah I wouldn't feed that to my chickens either.

She's coming home, and that's the part I'm going to focus on. Go Mac.

 

[SheriM]

The LGD pups weren't vaccinated when I got them. I bought vaccine on the way home and gave it to them, but by then it was too late, obviously. Fynnigan and the GSD were most definitely vaccinated. Fynn had his at the breeder and I did the GSD myself, but they'd only had one dose. They were due for their second the day they got sick. They were both flat out, lights-on-noboby-home and the vet said Fynn's white cell count was at zero. I am 100% certain that God saved Fynn for me and found out a year later why, but that's a whole 'nother story.

 

[mekasmom]

Intervet has a guarantee that if a dog who is properly vaccinated every two weeks until they are 16wks old ever gets parvo, they will pay for vet treatment. It is a much better vaccine than either Fort Dodge or Neopar because it stands behind its vaccines. But you can usually only get it at the vet's office rather than OTC.