I have worms in my Eggs? Help!!!!!

[chickengeorgeto]

Worms were one of the things that I use to watch for when candling eggs with an automatic grader and candler.

For their firsr food after worming give each hen and rooster one slice of very stale loaf bread to which just enough buttermilk has been added to make it soggy. Also add about 1/2 teaspoon of epson salts to the buttermilk per each slice of stale bread.

 

[RunnerChick]

I will disagree with the statement that you have to deworm all of the birds. I agree that they may all have parasites if some of them do; however, an individual animal's susceptibility to pathology from those parasites differs greatly. 80% of the worms are contained in 20% of the animals in any given herd situation. I'm speaking largely from hoofstock (goats, sheep, horses, cattle, etc) perspective, but logic suggests that it would be similar in grazing birds. Unless your birds are completely confined and never in contact with the ground, you will never be able to eliminate 100% of parasites. The idea is to eliminate the worst infestations, to limit the numbers present in your flock. There are no recommendations on how to do this in chickens, but something to keep in mind.

Veterinary parasitologists are rare, and the new recommendations for deworming ruminants and horses are just now starting to be adopted in many cases. Some forward thinking people started 10 years ago, but it's still new to many. I propose that we should start doing similar things with our flocks of chickens.

Testing should be always available, it just depends on how dedicated you are to doing it. I personally would select anyone that may not look as healthy as the rest, and then a few more samples, based on how many birds you have. It is simple. When a bird poops, put it in a plastic baggie. Keep it in the fridge until you can take it to a vet clinic. A couple of days to a week is the longest it might be considered ok to test. Any vet clinic can fill out the forms and send it to a lab if they don't want to run the sample themselves. If your local vet refuses, you can call your local agriculture extension office. They should be able to direct you to an appropriate laboratory. Some states require a vet to be involved, but again, your vet that doesn't treat chickens can still send in a sample.

See the following link for transcripts from a recent public meeting at which veterinary parasitologists discussed this topic in ruminants and horses only:
http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/ResourcesforYou/ucm318015.htm

There isn't any science to directly support that the same is true in chickens, but the biology is not that different.

Food for thought.

 

[RunnerChick]

Worms were one of the things that I use to watch for when candling eggs with an automatic grader and candler.

For their firsr food after worming give each hen and rooster one slice of very stale loaf bread to which just enough buttermilk has been added to make it soggy. Also add about 1/2 teaspoon of epson salts to the buttermilk per each slice of stale bread.

What is the purpose of this? What does the bread, buttermilk, and epsom salts do?

 

[Chictaw]

What is the purpose of this? What does the bread, buttermilk, and epsom salts do?

AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER....I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWERE. We live in Nevada in the desert. I am retired and have a hard time getting to a town that is big enough to have a vet that would do this. I ALSO SAID I AM GETTING A HANDLE ON MY TAPEWORM PROBLEM...thanks to the help from dawg!!! I have done alot of research and I know I will never get rid of them forever, it will be a constant battle. But for now they are doing very good. They are gaining weight back and are starting to look much healthier. Besides that when the ants come out it will start all over again. OH Yeh! there are only 2,700 people in our whole county. NOT MUCH HELP HERE. Just learning to do this on my own, and a lot of help from dawg.

 

[Chictaw]

Worms were one of the things that I use to watch for when candling eggs with an automatic grader and candler.

For their firsr food after worming give each hen and rooster one slice of very stale loaf bread to which just enough buttermilk has been added to make it soggy. Also add about 1/2 teaspoon of epson salts to the buttermilk per each slice of stale bread.

I am interested in what you wrote. I have heard buttermilk was good for them after worming. What does the stale bread, buttermilk and epson salt do for them. I will try anything to get my girls back in good shape.

 

[RunnerChick]

AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER....I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWERE. We live in Nevada in the desert. I am retired and have a hard time getting to a town that is big enough to have a vet that would do this. I ALSO SAID I AM GETTING A HANDLE ON MY TAPEWORM PROBLEM...thanks to the help from dawg!!! I have done alot of research and I know I will never get rid of them forever, it will be a constant battle. But for now they are doing very good. They are gaining weight back and are starting to look much healthier.  Besides that when the ants come out it will start all over again.  OH Yeh! there are only 2,700 people in our whole county. NOT MUCH HELP HERE. Just learning to do this on my own, and a lot of help from dawg.

I'm sorry if I offended you. I only meant to encourage intelligent discussion. I don't think it is fair to stick out your tongue. I wasn't suggesting that other posters (Dawg) haven't been helpful in your situation. I'm just suggesting that overall, we should consider these things when deciding how and with what to treat our animals.

 

[Chictaw]

I'm sorry if I offended you. I only meant to encourage intelligent discussion. I don't think it is fair to stick out your tongue. I wasn't suggesting that other posters (Dawg) haven't been helpful in your situation. I'm just suggesting that overall, we should consider these things when deciding how and with what to treat our animals.

I was not offended of what you said, I was offended because you did not listen or read the posts before this. I had said I have no one here to help me, and I live out so far I can't go to a vet because there is none. You kept telling me to have my birds tested. I have done a lot of research and with the help from Dawg many times, I have discovered we had tapeworm. I have treated them and they are on their way to recover. I am retired person with not much resources and I don't drive, so I need help from all of you, but I do need you all to listen to were I am coming from.

 

[Cynthia12]

Give your birds Valbazen liquid cattle/sheep wormer. Use a syringe without a needle. Dosage is 1/2cc given orally undiluted to each bird. Repeat dosing in 10 days. Total withdrawal time from start to finish is 24 days.

Ok, got my Valbazen today, just in time to dose them. I did the Wazine 10 days ago today. So, I'm a little worried that I many have overdosed one of my hens. I did the 1/2 cc for her at first, but she is so stubborn on swallowing. She was the same way when I decided to give my girls some with a syringe. I knew that would be ok, because they can drink that through out the day. She just dribbled it, then swallowed some. So, I did another one for her, only I gave her just under the 1/2 cc thinking she would dribble it out again. By darn if she didn't swallow it all! She's a big hen, in fact the biggest one out there..so hoping that will help. I just love her, I would be so mad at myself if she doesn't do well with this. :/

 

[dawg53]

Quote: Dont worry, valbazen is a very safe wormer.

 

[Cynthia12]

Dont worry, valbazen is a very safe wormer.

Oh, I was hoping you would respond. Thank you! I won't go to bed worrying tonight.