i ordered this organic feed. it's here. (pic page 3)

[card5640]

Jacksflock wow wow thank you so much I have search high and low, someone in the county was going to do it and it never got off the ground. I will contact them now as I have family near that that can get it for me. WONDEFUL do you know anything of price?

 

[flockmom]

I am so happy to see others are having success with Countryside. I started my chicks on it, and at 3 weeks switched them to the "big girl" grind. They are all thriving. As for eating it myself...probably not. However, my German Shepherd loves it, so I have to ensure he can't get get to the feed bag!

 

[panner123]

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Once again I will tell you (everyone), your feed store is correct. Your feed dealer is trying to inform you of the truth yet you won't listen to him, dealers know the facts and don't want to mislead you. Some people just want to take your money and run. Most of the ingredents in organic feed is the same as in regular feed, with the word organic pasted on it. Besides, when was the last time you saw a chicken run out for kelp. Many might think this is a lot of BS
but I have sold corn a the regular price for corn, only to watch it sold from the produce market as organic. I learned the hard way. No one inspects the so called organic farmer after he has the one time inspection. How can they stop his neighboring farmer from spraying his farm. The wind blows these chemicals all over the place. My crops where sprayed from the air never belos 500 feet, with a pass over of 1/4 mile. So with anyone within a 1/4 of a mile of the end of my property got sprayed with the same chemicals I used. Yes, organic would be GREAT if it were organic.

 

[greathorse]

Once again Panner spouts his facts no foundation. He has a personal definition of what defines organic. That is of course his perogative. But one only needs to go to the Organic Trade assoc. site to see that there is a signicant difference in conventionally grown grain or organic. I dont use organic as it does not represent enough of a value to me when fed to animals. Whether or not this has value is for each to decide. To say that it is grown the same is just incorrect and irresponsible.

I weary of this constant drivvle Panner

 

[Chris09]

Not all Organic is the same..

I don't know too many feeds if any that are Certified 100% Organic.
Countryside Naturals says that the feed they sell is Certified Organic but they don't say that they are certified 100% Certified Organic.

100 Percent Organic:
This label can only be used on products that contain only organic components. This means that there is nothing contained within the item that is not completely organic.

Organic:
This label can only be used on products that contain at least 95 percent organic ingredients or components. Products with this label may contain up too 5 percent of ingredients that are not organic.
Thats 5 lbs out of a 100 lbs tha can be non-organic ingredients or 2 1/2 lbs out of 50 lbs.

Made With Organic Ingredients:
This label can only be used on items that contain at least 70 percent organic ingredients. This certification means that although the majority of ingredients used in the product are indeed organic, there may also be as much as 30 percent of ingredients that are not organic. That's 30 lbs out of a 100 lbs tha can be non-organic ingredients or 15 lbs out of 50 lbs.

Look closely at the organic labels on food and other products Just because an item has an organic certification, it does not necessarily indicate that the item is completely organic.

Chris

 

[panner123]

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If you would like to come for a visit and make the trip to the produce market, in South San Franciscoo yourself. You will see would I say is FACT. Sold there many times and there is NO CHECKING, only what you tell them. From there it goes to the stores such as Safeway, Raleys and many of the local Mom & Pop stores. Believe what you want fact is fact, pull in and tell the gate you have half a load of organic corn and half load of plain corn, you will be sent to one bay for the organic and another the the plain, yet it came out of the SAME FIELD. Do people try to grow straight organic, heck yea, but it is the next best thing to impossible. Some people even believe smoking is good for you. Today I am no longer a commerical grower, I do have about a 1/2 acer garden, which can be considered organic. Only because I use no chemicals in it. There is no way this land can ever be certified as organic, it has way to much natural arsenic in it. They have even tried to close the local schools because of the arsenic level in the ground. After all the tests the government changes the rules. Done all the time to please those in office.

 

[greathorse]

I have been to San Fran many times and in the stores you speak of. Labeling requirements are stringent. Are their cheaters? Yes I suppose so. None the less you speak out of sheer ignorance of the regulations. I am finished with this thread, but will never let you go on with such ignorance.

 

[greathorse]

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[Chris09]

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Yes, the grain must be certified but it can be certified as Organic or 100% Organic.
And I agree that some supplements do not need to be certified...


As for your other question..
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It dosent sound right but from my understanding you can as long as that bag says Organic on it..

Chris

 

[greathorse]

I am going to look into that as I think that refers to retail packaging and not animals certified on 70% grain. Thanks for your straight forward insights