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Good.
Good.
I swear, this will be the final time I vent!
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I'm glad you found this out. But, from one agnostic to another - or anyone of differing faith to their parents for that matter - the tension within yourself releases when you tell them (politely) and give explanation of what you believe. For a while when I was little, I attended every church service, etc - my mother never forced me to, but she is a Christian. Not belonging to any church or anything of the like, very open minded. I finally figured out one day, that I didn't believe any of what they were telling me. I began to question, and slowly began to be honest with myself. The day I told mom, she wasn't upset. "I've known for a long time Honey. I don't love you any less; I never could. I'm actually proud of you for figuring out who you are, for setting yourself straight."
But, there are those that never let you be who you are - and will always try to convert you, even when they know you stand firm. Her family still regularly buys me Bibles for Christmas, quotes Bible verses for me, want's me to bless meals at Thanksgiving/Christmas... all things that are so childish and rude, but at the same time they are doing the only thing they know to "save" me. Then there are those in the family who have put me down for my beliefs.... there are some people that cannot, and will not, allow you to be who you are. Forget them. If they can't love you for who you are, they don't deserve you in the first place!
Now, you thinking that a persons worth is only intelligence, can only be changed by you. Sounds cheesy, but it's true. I used to believe that MY self worth was only so much as how intelligent I was. It's not true. It's for all of who I am - my morals, how I help people, my actions, my words, my promises kept, my passion, my intelligence(or lack there of)... and on the same token, for my flaws. My temper, my lack of patience, how spiteful I can be, being too passionate, being outspoken. It's who you are, what you've done, and who you try to be that makes a persons worth.
Keep your head up, please. If you ever need someone to talk to, PM me or e-mail me any time. I never had anyone to talk to who shared my religious beliefs... I live in the bible belt. I know that if I had, it would have made things a lot better.
I'm glad you found this out. But, from one agnostic to another - or anyone of differing faith to their parents for that matter - the tension within yourself releases when you tell them (politely) and give explanation of what you believe. For a while when I was little, I attended every church service, etc - my mother never forced me to, but she is a Christian. Not belonging to any church or anything of the like, very open minded. I finally figured out one day, that I didn't believe any of what they were telling me. I began to question, and slowly began to be honest with myself. The day I told mom, she wasn't upset. "I've known for a long time Honey. I don't love you any less; I never could. I'm actually proud of you for figuring out who you are, for setting yourself straight."
But, there are those that never let you be who you are - and will always try to convert you, even when they know you stand firm. Her family still regularly buys me Bibles for Christmas, quotes Bible verses for me, want's me to bless meals at Thanksgiving/Christmas... all things that are so childish and rude, but at the same time they are doing the only thing they know to "save" me. Then there are those in the family who have put me down for my beliefs.... there are some people that cannot, and will not, allow you to be who you are. Forget them. If they can't love you for who you are, they don't deserve you in the first place!
Now, you thinking that a persons worth is only intelligence, can only be changed by you. Sounds cheesy, but it's true. I used to believe that MY self worth was only so much as how intelligent I was. It's not true. It's for all of who I am - my morals, how I help people, my actions, my words, my promises kept, my passion, my intelligence(or lack there of)... and on the same token, for my flaws. My temper, my lack of patience, how spiteful I can be, being too passionate, being outspoken. It's who you are, what you've done, and who you try to be that makes a persons worth.
Keep your head up, please. If you ever need someone to talk to, PM me or e-mail me any time. I never had anyone to talk to who shared my religious beliefs... I live in the bible belt. I know that if I had, it would have made things a lot better.
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Thanks, Eenie and everyone.
Actually, I don't have a learning disability... I don't think, anyway. I mean, although it hasn't been confirmed yet, I may have a little bit of bi-polar disorder and Aspergers.
From the other side of the atlantic.
Actually, I don't have a learning disability... I don't think, anyway. I mean, although it hasn't been confirmed yet, I may have a little bit of bi-polar disorder and Aspergers.
From the other side of the atlantic.
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Read everything you can by Carol Dweck. http://mindsetonline.com/howmindsetaffects/mindsetforachievement/index.html
Read everything you can by Carol Dweck. http://mindsetonline.com/howmindsetaffects/mindsetforachievement/index.html
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You know your mom best,and will know when(an if) the time is right to speak with her about various subjects.
My kids are still young,but only a year ago began telling me things...well things I could do without.But I smile and hug and support. As for religion I tell my own kids there are many paths to GOD and/or finding your place in the universe and I am OK with them finding THEIR path. The path of the parents is often not the same path the child will take.We can offer it,but should not be hostile if they take a fork in the road.
There is a lot of pressure put on children to get *good grades*,and then pressure to make the right career choices. Ends often with many unhappy people.I know that with hsing there is not the grade factor,but sometimes the pressure can be worse because others often test the knowldege of the child.They *test* them to see if they are up to par with other hsers or children in regluar brick and mortar schools. This sort of thing will lessen as you get older.
After time you will be judged on other things,lol. I now realise the shelf stocker at the local discount store has quite an extensive knowledge on various topics that interest me.On the flip side the doctor I went to see a week ago was a complete IDIOT,and I wonder how he can be in a position to make life or death choices for others.His knowledge in so many areas was lacking,but he is considered superior to so many just becasue he is a doctor.
Evaluate each person on what they say and do,and do not assume a degree will mean they are worthy people.
My kids are still young,but only a year ago began telling me things...well things I could do without.But I smile and hug and support. As for religion I tell my own kids there are many paths to GOD and/or finding your place in the universe and I am OK with them finding THEIR path. The path of the parents is often not the same path the child will take.We can offer it,but should not be hostile if they take a fork in the road.
There is a lot of pressure put on children to get *good grades*,and then pressure to make the right career choices. Ends often with many unhappy people.I know that with hsing there is not the grade factor,but sometimes the pressure can be worse because others often test the knowldege of the child.They *test* them to see if they are up to par with other hsers or children in regluar brick and mortar schools. This sort of thing will lessen as you get older.
After time you will be judged on other things,lol. I now realise the shelf stocker at the local discount store has quite an extensive knowledge on various topics that interest me.On the flip side the doctor I went to see a week ago was a complete IDIOT,and I wonder how he can be in a position to make life or death choices for others.His knowledge in so many areas was lacking,but he is considered superior to so many just becasue he is a doctor.
Evaluate each person on what they say and do,and do not assume a degree will mean they are worthy people.
Intelligence definitely isn't the deciding factor in deciding a persons worth. I know you aren't religious, but try looking up St. John Vianney, even if only as historical reference. He was thought to be useless because he was clumsy and didn't have much book smarts, but he was humble, virtuous, and full of love for God and people.Thousands converted after hearing him, and he is one of the greatest saints.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to leave the Church? Is there any particular thing you have a problem with? Don't worry about me "trying to convert you". YOU are the only one who can convert yourself.
Out of curiosity, why do you want to leave the Church? Is there any particular thing you have a problem with? Don't worry about me "trying to convert you". YOU are the only one who can convert yourself.
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Hm, I'll have to look him up.
I just disagree with a lot of the subjects they teach.
Hm, I'll have to look him up.
I just disagree with a lot of the subjects they teach.
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