I think my pullet is near death. :-(

[Andora]

Just wondering, what does S/Q mean? Is that the injectable form?

 

[Gazinga]

i have a question also, above in teh string it was mentionded that water and grapefriut seed work wel and dont have teh negative side efects of terremyacin...........what a re the negative side effects of this antibiotic?

i sprinkle a few tablespoons per 5 galon water jug for my girls once a month. is this bad?

 

[Andora]

Antibiotics kill good things inside the gut and for some of them I've read you shouldn't eat the eggs, but I'm very very far from a chicken expert.

The GSE doesn't harm anything good inside the body the same way antibiotics do, and it doesn't effect the meat or eggs.

 

[Andora]

My Tractor Supply carries Tylan 200, is that the best thing to get? How much of it should I give to the pullets and the hens?

 

[d.k]

* O.k. -- Sounds like you have got a couple things going wrong here. Bloody poo is indicative of cocci. Cocci is a protozoa that is parasitic. It lives in the soil, and you can't do much to erradicate it from there-- but, the chickens can be treated with SULMET in their water. Takes 2 doses, follow instructions on the bottle. Tylan injectible is used for respiratory ailments. S/Q is sub-cutaneous (under the skin). On a chicken, that usually means in the breast area, sometimes the "shoulder" area. I never remember the dose off the top of my head, sorry. You can do a BYC site search for Tylan and find out. Also, is it at all possible the 2 sickies could have eaten some plant or something toxic?? (The foaming, drooling and sweating has just got me wondering.)

 

[d.k]

* Gazinga, it is a bad idea to treat any critter or person with antibiotics just as a routine. Terramyicin is an antibiotic. I would stop using it that way. It disupts digestion by killing off good bacteria with bad, makes them less responsive when they really need antibiotics, and further, in general, their eggs are not supposed to be eaten within 1O-14 days after use of antibiotics. This is to prevent YOUR OWN over-exposure to antibiotics. I haven't yet really researched or used GSE myself, so I can't advise you, although I have heard it is an excellent mold killer, and I may need to try it on that basis before long (given these storms!)

 

[tiki244]

I am not at all sure if you should be giving two types of meds at the same time. And Tylan 200 I think is too high a number. It seems I remember a mention of Tylan50.

But with the bloody poop I would treat for cocci imediately with sulfa di methozine in the water. Cocci can kill fast, but with treatment they will recover quickly. I would say at least 6 days on the sulfa. You could also chop up garlic cloves and feed them that as a natural antibiotic. And then just observe them carefully. Later you can give probiotics when they are done with the meds.


Sorry for your loss

 

[speckledhen]

Sulmet treats both cocci and infectious coryza, which is what your pullet seems to have had. Terramycin is not strong enough. Coryza can make them carriers for life, so they can infect other birds even when they themselves do not look sick. Where did you get these birds? Sounds like someone sold you ill birds.

 

[TubbyChicken]

A couple questions...

(Andora and I got our birds from the same place)

I have one bird who is sneezy and raspy. The other birds in the coop all seem fine. No bloody poo, no foul smell (aside from normal chicken smells). I assumed that the symptoms could be attributed to the dampness in the coop from a spilled waterer (I cleaned the coop upon finding the dampness and am doing another thorough cleaning with bleach water today and using Stall Dry) We don't have a roost in yet and the birds were all spending a lot of time on the ground. Now I'm obviously concerned that this could develop into a similar pattern.

Is it possible that my birds don't have the same illness? I went to TSC and bought some Tylan 50, some syringes, new bedding, stall dry and we are working on the roost right now.

I'm terrified of overdosing the birds or hurting them with the injection. I've given injections to my dogs and cats before but this is entirely different. Should I forgo the Tylan as preventative for the healthy seeming birds or should I buck up and give the shots? What about Sulmet? Would that be a better alternative?

(I'm also going to replace the waterer in the coop with a Rabbit waterer to prevent any further dampness, and I'm moving the large waterer outside to the run.)

Is there anything else I can do? I'm so sad for the loss of her little chickie

and I'm so worried for the rest of our flocks.

(and as a side note, the man we purchased the birds from had clean premises, birds all seemed healthy, he offered vet records of recent vaccinations and references...)

 

[speckledhen]

Really, it's hard to say if they have the same thing. The disgusting smell is classic Coryza and treatable with Sulmet, as is the cocci. If they have both, that would definitely be where I'd start with the meds. Dampness can do lots of things to birds, even just allowing germs to multiply faster and mold to grow. It's possible they have the same thing, but if there is no bad smell, they may not.