I want to show chickens

[I Love Layers]

I agree with you Banty, it would then be an Ameracauna. Not an Easter Egger

 

[gojira]

I'm not getting you. That would make them Ameraucanas, not Easter Eggers.

I know, most people on BYC feel a bird is a breed if it looks like it, not based on lineage. One could take birds of Easter Egger lineage, and show them as Ameraucanas. Say I had a White Wyandotte with a single comb, but both of its parents were shown as White Wyandottes, that had Plymouth Rock type. Would it be A White Wyandotte or a White Plymouth Rock? What if one bred Production Reds to fit the Rhode Island Red Standard. Would they become Rhode Island Reds?

 

[BantyChooks]

I know, most people on BYC feel a bird is a breed if it looks like it, not based on lineage. One could take birds of Easter Egger lineage, and show them as Ameraucanas.

Show me a bird of direct hatchery EE heritage that looks like a SOP Ameraucana and I'll eat my hat, lol.

 

[BantyChooks]

Say I had a White Wyandotte with a single comb, but both of its parents were shown as White Wyandottes, that had Plymouth Rock type. Would it be A White Wyandotte or a White Plymouth Rock? What if one bred Production Reds to fit the Rhode Island Red Standard. Would they become Rhode Island Reds?

This is a oft-repeated question that has two answers in my opinion. What are you doing with the bird? Purely showing, or are you a breeder that aims to improve upon your stock? If you just show and don't give a rat's rear about improving the breed then you "could" say it was a White Plymouth Rock and show and win as such.
If you are any sort of a breeder at all you would cull said bird as a poor quality White Wyandotte. It wouldn't produce chicks that look like it due to the Wyandotte breeding in it, and like producing like is what makes a breed a breed.
I guess my point is what you decide to say it is depends what your goals are.

ETA: The Rhode Island Red thing is something else. If you BREED IT UP to SOP, then yes, I would say it was a RIR.

 

[I Love Layers]

I know, most people on BYC feel a bird is a breed if it looks like it, not based on lineage. One could take birds of Easter Egger lineage, and show them as Ameraucanas. Say I had a White Wyandotte with a single comb, but both of its parents were shown as White Wyandottes, that had Plymouth Rock type. Would it be A White Wyandotte or a White Plymouth Rock? What if one bred Production Reds to fit the Rhode Island Red Standard. Would they become Rhode Island Reds?

If both of a birds parents are purebred of one breed that is also what there offspring is no matter what they look like. Again I agree with everything Banty said

 

[gojira]

That is in no way correct for showing in a class other than in showmanship. I can get many people to agree with me also. An easter egger could never be shown, in an APA/ABA or most shows in fact, and place.

As for my example, even with proper conditioning the hatchery would never place over mine, I can also get many people to agree with me on that.
The flaws in my bird is she needs more lacing, and a better comb and face.
I find no positives in the hatchery quality, other then maybe a little of its coloring but it is very uneven

You could get many people to agree with you, but they would be incorrect. Your hatchery example would have more even coloring, and it's type would appear better if poperly conditioned. The hatchery bird has lacing, and your "show quality" bird does not. What does the standard say about lacing?

I guess I need to condition an Easter Egger this season.

 

[BantyChooks]

that is also what there offspring is no matter what they look like.

Also agree, though the AM people won't. I think it's still a bad quality specimen of xxx breed, not transformed into a mutt by phenotype alone.

 

[gojira]

If both of a birds parents are purebred of one breed that is also what there offspring is no matter what they look like. Again I agree with everything Banty said

So if both parents are Easter Eggers, the bird is still an Easter Eggers then. But, it could be shown as an Ameraucana.

 

[BantyChooks]

So if both parents are Easter Eggers, the bird is still an Easter Eggers then. But, it could be shown as an Ameraucana.

Could be shown, yes, if you managed to get a bird that looks like SOP.

My personal standpoint is that counts as cheating. To me, shows are a showcase for YOUR breeding productions and a helpful guide for going as close as possible to SOP. Showing a genetic disaster (I lack a better term for this) for the sake of a scrap of ribbon is not what the fancy is about. Just my 2c.

 

[I Love Layers]

So if both parents are Easter Eggers, the bird is still an Easter Eggers then. But, it could be shown as an Ameraucana.

Yes. So it could not be shown as an ameracauna because it is not one. Even if it looks like one