(I was wrong!!)Pretty disgusted with Murray McMurray Hatchery

White chest means mottled I’ve never seen mottled ees
Hmm perhaps it was just light yellow down on my EEs that are turning out white with grey -- not splash, but that BYM pattern but with white+grey


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Her down was white with a brown chipmunk pattern (like her papa, who is Splash w/Wild Brown Partridge (red leakage))

So I do believe THIS is the Speckled Sussex::: ??

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Most local breeders are the chicken version of puppy mills, with a host of lovely diseases
I didn't really think of this, but I guess that would be accurate.

Most people don't have a single clue *in general* of how to keep chickens in a healthy and happy environment, let alone people trying to exploit them for profit.
 
I didn't really think of this, but I guess that would be accurate.

Most people don't have a single clue *in general* of how to keep chickens in a healthy and happy environment, let alone people trying to exploit them for profit.
I know good breeders exist, we have many here but theres a difference between 'letting your chickens do whatever and selling the babies' and 'a bio-secure set up that the breeder selects the birds to pair'.
And most 'local breeders' are just ordering chicks from hatcheries and raising them to off heat.
 
I know good breeders exist, we have many here but theres a difference between 'letting your chickens do whatever and selling the babies' and 'a bio-secure set up that the breeder selects the birds to pair'.
And most 'local breeders' are just ordering chicks from hatcheries and raising them to off heat.
Yeah from what I see on facebook, people are quite aware what 'barnyard mix' is for the most part and definitely say that when they offer chicks up. So that's a good thing at least.

There are loads of lists of reputable breeders on any breeds organization page. That is a good place to start I suppose -- it might not be super local, but it's absolutely supporting someone who should be supported.

That's assuming the breed organization does due diligence, though.
 
Yeah from what I see on facebook, people are quite aware what 'barnyard mix' is for the most part and definitely say that when they offer chicks up. So that's a good thing at least.

There are loads of lists of reputable breeders on any breeds organization page. That is a good place to start I suppose -- it might not be super local, but it's absolutely supporting someone who should be supported.

That's assuming the breed organization does due diligence, though.
Looking at a breeders directory is a great way to find breeders, though many in the U.S are in the Midwest and east coast, not a lot are west of the Mississippi or in the southwest where I am. So it's not what I'd consider 'local'. 😅
 
Also just wanted to add that they cannot delay shipments even in an emergency as chicks being shipped out have to be shipped immediately to optimize their chances of survival. Is money a factor? Yes, but it is also a matter of they simply cannot delay things

Glad your chicks arrived safely!
 

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