Icelandic Chickens

[mlm Mike]

WOW, this thread has been rather busy. Lots of wonderful pictures and videos. I'm really learning a lot about genetics.

We picked up our newest Icelandic Sheepdog puppy Memorial Day Weekend.

Here she is meeting the young Icelandic Roo, she was chasing the hens and he stepped in, she stopped because this one wasn't running away (good roo!)



Here she is with our male Icelandic Sheepdog, he has long hair, she is a short haired:



Here she is "herding" some of our 2012 goat kids:



And her is Beher with some of his flock (to bring it back to Icelandic Chickens).



Mike

 

[Icelander]

It is obvious that you do not understand, or that I am not explaining it well. Just know this - - -
A mutation can happen ANYtime, ANYwhere, to ANYbody. Believe it, or not.

Kathy I believe it, and I never disputed it, just asking questions that have been hanging in the air. In any case, I think that we would raise eyebrows if Icelandic redheads that have zero history of diabetes started to get diabetes after moving to the U.S. I think we might at least consider environmental factors.

I am, like many of my countrymen, outspoken to a fault and I can tell there is frustration towards me for raising these questions, but I do hope everyone realizes that it is not out of any sort of malice. I love these birds, they are are my homeland's breed and I am so thankful they have found a safe haven here in the U.S. with so many wonderful breeders, some of which I have gotten to know through the Facebook group and this thread.

I have read much of this thread, including several occurrences of "fray" discussions, but I cannot certify I have read every single page, but certainly enough to see that this is an ongoing issue that has not been resolved.

I am absolutely not criticizing the fact that the fray issue has been discussed, it is commendable that it has been discussed openly. I am simply participating in that open discussion, because I care.

 

[Icelander]

WOW, this thread has been rather busy. Lots of wonderful pictures and videos. I'm really learning a lot about genetics.

We picked up our newest Icelandic Sheepdog puppy Memorial Day Weekend.

Here she is meeting the young Icelandic Roo, she was chasing the hens and he stepped in, she stopped because this one wasn't running away (good roo!)



Here she is with our male Icelandic Sheepdog, he has long hair, she is a short haired:



Here she is "herding" some of our 2012 goat kids:



And her is Beher with some of his flock (to bring it back to Icelandic Chickens).



Mike

Mike those fjárhundar (sheepdogs) are beautiful (I want one!)
So are the birds

 

[kathyinmo]

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[Icelander]

Significant? No. It only takes ONE bird to start with. That bird passes it on to the offspring (offspring is a carrier, not "showing," the fray). Mate the offspring back to the parent (or to sibling) and results will be:

• some carriers
• some with visible fray
• some who are NOT carriers and do NOT have the gene at all.

See, since the original bird has 2 genes, he-she will only pass on ONE gene. Sometimes the fray gene, and sometimes the "normal" gene. So, not ALL of the offspring will have this gene.

It takes TWO genes to visibly see the fray mutation. One from mother. One from father.

Is it known where the U.S. fray gene initially comes from?

 

[mlm Mike]

Mike those fjárhundar (sheepdogs) are beautiful (I want one!)
So are the birds

There is a wonderful black/white long haired male in your area, http://brekkubrunicelandics.blogspot.com/.

GREAT pictures, Mike! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks, I finally got the good camera out, I forgot how much better it is than the camera phone.

Is it known where the U.S. fray gene initially comes from?

Retracted- I could not find where I have read this.

 

[kathyinmo]

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[mlm Mike]

WHAT?????

Too much line breeding/inbreeding doesn't exaggerate ? It's just what I was taught about the risks with goats, if its not true, I'm welcome to being educated. Also, wonderful pictures, do you accept visitors? We're in MO (Carrollton) every November, this year we have to go to Houston TX. to deliver a coffee table I'm making for my niece.