Icelandic Chickens

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First, thank you Henk for your help!

Are the feathers on a "duckwing" a solid color? Both of my roosters have bi-colored flight feathers, you can see this in the top photo but the lower one the wing triangle appears red but the top half of the feathers is blue/gray. Which gene/combo causes the bi-colored flight feathers? I know my Silver Laced Wyandottes also have this trait.

Could you recommend a book, in English, that would be a "beginner" level for the color patterns we see in our Icelandics? The actual gene compositions are also of interest, but maybe more than I want to tackle right now. Your calculator is wonderful but I don't know just how to enter some of my birds and whether it even work with them since they don't breed true.

Here are pictures of the roosters than have sired all my chicks for this year. What would their color patterns be called?

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44049_may_eleven_044.jpg


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44049_ari_strut.jpg

In a duckwing the wing triangle is groundcolor in appearance but the feathers are indeed bicolor. One flag is mostly groundcolor, the other mostly patterncolor (black or a dilution thereof, in your case blue/gray).
Duckwing used to refer to the blue sheen over a silver duckwing game rooster's wing bar. A crowwing would have a green sheen there.
A crowwing also has a solid black (...) wing triangle area. That difference did not catch the eye of the old gamefanciers...
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Both rooster show a duckwing wing triangle so they could genetically be either a duckwing (e+) or a wheaten (e^Wh) or a brown/partridge (e^b)
Rooster 1 looks like a het dominant white (I/i+) patterned very melanized one (eg Ml or cha/cha).
Rooster 2 looks like a black breasted red, no other genes have to be set
The hackle striping looks like e^b, maybe e+, less likely e^Wh
 
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What about tri-colored flight feathers, like the one below. Are these representative of any particular pattern?

edited to add: this is a five month old cockerel by the rooster in the second pic above.

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First, thank you Henk for your help!

Are the feathers on a "duckwing" a solid color? Both of my roosters have bi-colored flight feathers, you can see this in the top photo but the lower one the wing triangle appears red but the top half of the feathers is blue/gray. Which gene/combo causes the bi-colored flight feathers? I know my Silver Laced Wyandottes also have this trait.

Could you recommend a book, in English, that would be a "beginner" level for the color patterns we see in our Icelandics? The actual gene compositions are also of interest, but maybe more than I want to tackle right now. Your calculator is wonderful but I don't know just how to enter some of my birds and whether it even work with them since they don't breed true.

Here are pictures of the roosters than have sired all my chicks for this year. What would their color patterns be called?

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44049_may_eleven_044.jpg


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/44049_ari_strut.jpg

In a duckwing the wing triangle is groundcolor in appearance but the feathers are indeed bicolor. One flag is mostly groundcolor, the other mostly patterncolor (black or a dilution thereof, in your case blue/gray).
Duckwing used to refer to the blue sheen over a silver duckwing game rooster's wing bar. A crowwing would have a green sheen there.
A crowwing also has a solid black (...) wing triangle area. That difference did not catch the eye of the old gamefanciers...
wink.png


Both rooster show a duckwing wing triangle so they could genetically be either a duckwing (e+) or a wheaten (e^Wh) or a brown/partridge (e^b)
Rooster 1 looks like a het dominant white (I/i+) patterned very melanized one (eg Ml or cha/cha).
Rooster 2 looks like a black breasted red, no other genes have to be set
The hackle striping looks like e^b, maybe e+, less likely e^Wh

Yeah, what he said,
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Thanks Henk for dropping in and giving a learning lesson that's what I was searching for last night but was too tired to find it.

Sorry for thread busting here Icelandicers but Mrs. Kathy didn't know what it meant so I figured this was as good a place as any to learn it.

Ok back to the topic at hand I'm really enjoying ya'lls thread here on these different breed chickens for sure and if I didn't have a boat load(big boat too, like ship) of chickens and breeds I would venture off into to the Icelandic world but not now maybe in the future sometime. I'm sure I could arrange to get me some some how,
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, right Mrs. Kathy

Carry on!
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Jeff
 
Thank you everyone! It is healing nicely. Luckily it was right on my cheek bone and so not a lot of people made mention of it.
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Luckily I had no witnesses, but I did have to explain what happened....they looked at me like I have rocks in my head.
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Oh well their loss.
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Laree I am so sorry! I hope your ankle is fine.
 
Thanks! My ankle is fine, my pride, not so much.

On an Icelandics note: one of my Icelandics is not like the others, which is sortof a stupid thing to say, I know. BUT he is not sleek like the others, but has that stocky FCBM look to him. Does that make sense? I will try to get a picture today---lord knows that I hatched enough chicks this spring. For all I know he COULD be a FCBM, but heck if I know where he came from.
 
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In a duckwing the wing triangle is groundcolor in appearance but the feathers are indeed bicolor. One flag is mostly groundcolor, the other mostly patterncolor (black or a dilution thereof, in your case blue/gray).
Duckwing used to refer to the blue sheen over a silver duckwing game rooster's wing bar. A crowwing would have a green sheen there.
A crowwing also has a solid black (...) wing triangle area. That difference did not catch the eye of the old gamefanciers...
wink.png


Both rooster show a duckwing wing triangle so they could genetically be either a duckwing (e+) or a wheaten (e^Wh) or a brown/partridge (e^b)
Rooster 1 looks like a het dominant white (I/i+) patterned very melanized one (eg Ml or cha/cha).
Rooster 2 looks like a black breasted red, no other genes have to be set
The hackle striping looks like e^b, maybe e+, less likely e^Wh

Yeah, what he said,
lol.png


Thanks Henk for dropping in and giving a learning lesson that's what I was searching for last night but was too tired to find it.

Sorry for thread busting here Icelandicers but Mrs. Kathy didn't know what it meant so I figured this was as good a place as any to learn it.

Ok back to the topic at hand I'm really enjoying ya'lls thread here on these different breed chickens for sure and if I didn't have a boat load(big boat too, like ship) of chickens and breeds I would venture off into to the Icelandic world but not now maybe in the future sometime. I'm sure I could arrange to get me some some how,
wink.png
, right Mrs. Kathy

Carry on!
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Jeff

Always nice to see you, Jeff, my friend! Thank you so much for your efforts at educating me!

Thanks Henk for all the great info! I am just a beginner and love learning!
 

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