Icelandic Chickens

Hi Dianne

I read over what I wrote, what I was trying to say is that the established modern breeds, ifnot having a lot of selection pressure according to their standards will diverge in appearance and traits, with no outside influence brought in, you can see it all over this site, show quality/production quality and breeder quality and usually there is quite a bit of obvious differences between them. Look at RIRs, when I was a tadpole over a half century ago my grandmother had a very fine flock of RIRs, she was very proud of them, with reason she often gave to me, she used to lecture me on them every day to and from the chicken house what they HAD to have, RCs where a biggie with her, now people show RIRs with SCs !

Otoh, if you breed a flock of Icelandics for ten or twenty years, with no outcrossing them in those twenty years you will produce Chickens like the Icelandics that you started with ! A thousand years is a LONG time to set a type, and it has happened with the Icelandics.

You commented on the variety of colors, that is something that has been selected for for a very long time , and that is what they produce in that. Whether it was personal pride in colors or just letting them happen, no-one knows, it just is. Color is not a survival item that was selected for in the harsh no-grain climate of Iceland. I say 'selected for', the type was selected for, whether by intent of climate and conditions solely I cant say, but there was a selection process there ongoing, and color was irrelevent. What is relevent is size, large enough to maintain body temps in the winter, small enough to survive on the meager rations in a country that grew little if any grain. That is much of the type, a survival trait. So is maternal ability, without it there would have been no Icelandics. Flock leading by the roos, much better then with other breeds I have had. Egg production is good, else they wouldnt have been kept. Cooking was largely of the stew pot, not Viking feast chawing we see in movies. So excess roos and old layers went into the stew pot, and were welcome.

There IS a distinct Icelandic type, but you wont find it in a single color, it wasnt selected for and I hope that it wont be, I dont want to lose any trait that could be traveling with a color gene.

So , all I can say is that this is a near ideal breed to have and to study, because it is a real authentic pure breed, and it is what it is, what that is remains for us to find out, they are there waiting for us. We dont really know but the tiniest bit of their history in development, all that we can really try to do is to extrapolate what life was like on the small farms and homesteads in Iceland and try and figure out how all the livestock was handled and developed there. Having seen pics of the dug-out homesteads in use after the forests were cut down I am sure that all livestock without a real practical value wernt keepers. Reading the Icelandic Sagas gives a very good insight into how life was early on there, you can extrapolate much from studying them. I was fascinated by them long before I knew of the Icelandic Chicken.

Life is good, and better with Icelandic Chickens and Pack Goats !
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Robin your first cockeral looks like my Bjorn, and he has a great temperament too, he is understudy to Blau and Ici !

We had a very nice sunny afternoon, from 3pm on, but the rain is coming I know.
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Re: Color, I do know that in other species, and genus's, that there are separate traits or single genes that travel with color, and vice versa, which is the main reason why I want to maintain as diverse colored flock as I can. We dont know yet which traits travel with a color, or multiple colors, there is a huge number of such things to determine, and only time and numbers will reveal much of this. We do know that we have color genes, and we have pattern genes, usually interacting, but what other traits besides color do these genes travel with ????

So much to learn !

Life is good, and better with Icelandic Chickens and Pack Goats !
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Chickielady need I remind you about the benefits of ice cream over cooking and baking? That's how we bonded .If the power goes out just eat the ice cream faster or use a straw. I bet you're gonna tell us fricasse of goat tastes just like chicken. Oh I am hungry.
 
These are pictures of the two roosters who, along with Isi, were active at the time Chickielady got her eggs. Both were re-homed in July and could not have been the fathers of the group I have growing out now. I am going to get rid of Little Man too just to cover all the bases. I will let Isi take care of the flock until some of the juveniles grow out. Pretty Boy was just a baby at this time but he has been re-homed too.

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Here's another picture that show the straight tail.

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Mary
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. It is all right. We know how much you love these birds and we know that you would never do anything to endanger them. It will work out. IF it is wry tail, IF, I know that you will take steps to correct it. Please do not beat yourself up.
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I am not beating myself up at all Tonya, just taking the steps necessary to make sure things are right on my end. I've just been asked about who the fathers might have been and I had a few moments to go back into my photo program and look at the pictures from that time fame. Luckily I photograph just about everything that goes on here so it makes it easier than remembering. I am fine with re-homing Little Man as I am sure I have plenty more in the pipeline. That will give me a bona-fide reason to say "no" to anyone wanting eggs or chicks until Spring. To be honest, I need the break.

But thanks for caring about me! I am just fine. Looking forward to my Isbar project now.
 
Hi Mary

a couple questions,

any pics of your Isbars?

Who would have been the sire of Blau?? I really dont think it was Isi, I think that you said Blau was hatched in jan or feb.

I am sure my Isi Isison is by your Isi, they are almost clones. And several of my pullets I think are by him. OTOH, Blau and the Contessa are a puzzlement.

Life is good and better with Icelandic Chickens and Pack Goats !
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I am not beating myself up at all Tonya, just taking the steps necessary to make sure things are right on my end. I've just been asked about who the fathers might have been and I had a few moments to go back into my photo program and look at the pictures from that time fame. Luckily I photograph just about everything that goes on here so it makes it easier than remembering. I am fine with re-homing Little Man as I am sure I have plenty more in the pipeline. That will give me a bona-fide reason to say "no" to anyone wanting eggs or chicks until Spring. To be honest, I need the break.

But thanks for caring about me! I am just fine. Looking forward to my Isbar project now.

Good!
 
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Jake I have pictures of the Isbars on my website. Just click the "CHICKENS" link. I'll go look in Lightroom for roo pics from Jan/Feb.
 
That was easy for me Jake, any of these guys. You on the other hand have your work cut out for you figuring which one!
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Here's a better pic of some of them with the colors showing.

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