Ideal poultry

[mfuchs]

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Huh??? I don't work for Ideal?

Teri was referring to me.
My name is Mikaela Fuchs and I work for Ideal Poultry. I have my Bachelors in Poultry Science from Texas A&M University. You can send me a PM or call me with any questions.


Thank You,
Mikaela Fuchs
Ideal Poultry Breeding Farms, Inc.
Po Box 591
Cameron, Texas 76520
800-243-3257 ext. 5411
254-697-2393 Fax

 

[rodriguezpoultry]

*Rocks back and forth*

That is freaking CREEPY.

Hello Mikaela! I'm Mikaela too! Coolness.

 

[redhen]

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HEY Rod! Arent you a poultry science major? Arent you looking for a job!? *hint..hint Ideal..

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[mfuchs]

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Spelled the exact same way?

I have never know anyone with the exact same spelling. very cool.

 

[Brunty_Farms]

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Wow are you serious? MG POSITIVE? I would stay clear from Ideal or any other hatchery that has this in their flocks. That's ridiculous that the Department of Agriculture doesn't shut them down. MG positive travels through the eggs and is the same reason why I'm battling this disease at the moment. Come fall it's a flock clean out as it's dreadfull to have birds that have it in their system.

By the way MG is chronic... it can relapse at any time.

That is so crazy the the USDA lets this go on. Shame.... Shame...

 

[Brunty_Farms]

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Both of the statements highlighted above are incorrect. We do ship ducks and chicks on the same day. We also are not dealing with an outbreak of MG. I would suggest reading the other thread listed above and understanding the differences in being MG positive and having an outbreak.

If you have any questions regarding the health of the poultry from IDEAL, please contact us at 800-243-3257 ext 5411 and Mikaela will be glad to answer any questions. If she is unable to answer your question she will direct you to someone that can.

Ideal sells over 5 million chickes a year and yes we do have customers that lose birds, but characterizing it as quite a few, dropping like flies, might need to put in perspective. Believe me, if we had a disease affecting the poultry that leaves our premise or that we maintain on our farm, the TAHC would be all over us.

Thank you,

Teri Adcox
Vice President
Ideal Poultry

You guys ship birds all over the country.... 5 million to be exact... and you are MG POSITIVE.... WOW.... is all I have to say to that. Be a responsible hatchery and get clean birds free of this disease... Practice good Bio-Securtiy..

MG Positve? Seriously? You can have a major outbreak in a blink of an eye.... if your breeders stress for any lengh of time this could trigger it. I'm dumbfounded... how does the USDA not do anything to help or prevent the spread of this? Especially since it's spread through the eggs?

By the way they are never immune to MG.... it's not a virus....

 

[Cuban Longtails]

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This has been discussed already: https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=219205

 

[Brunty_Farms]

Just read it... and I'm disgusted.

RedHen... I feel your pain.

You know what... spend the money and get your flock tested. With the 5 million chicks you send out... use some of that money to have clean flocks....

If you take your chickens to a county fair and you are clean but the bird in the next cage is not - guess which bird gets sick most of the time. Not the positive bird - it will be the negative bird.

even though the disease may be in a pen next to your bid at a show... doesn't make it right for you not to have clean birds? What a bad example to try and show people how it's "ok" to have MG.

I learned about 6 years ago about how hatcheries don't even exist and how hatcheries will drop ship for each other... again it's extremely disappointing.... and dishonest. I feel that profits have set a standard in this industry over honesty and quality.

However before this gets heated... as which I already am... Ideal, if your reading this... I do thank you for your honesty. I've never seen a hatchery out right say they have a positve disease in their flocks nor say openly that they have chicks dropped shipped from another hatchery to help satisfy their customers. There is a reason why customers come to you for birds (chicks) and by outsourcing your orders to other hatcheries to "catch up" is crazy.

The large hatcheries in the US are a very close group. Yes we are comptetitors but we are also customers of each other. We sell breeding stock to most of the large hatcheries as well as drop shipping for a lot of them throughout the year. They also ship for us during the year. This allows all of us to service our customers better and more quickly.

I was aware of this... however never seen a hatchery as open about it as yours. Don't you think that if someone wants a product from your hatchery, they should get your product? Not someone elses? This has been going on for a long time... but there are hatcheries out there that do not do this.

Ideal Poultry does maintain it's own breeder flock and grandparent flock. We do not hatch eggs brought in from outside sources other than Turkey eggs, French Guinea eggs and Ducks at Easter. All standard and bantam chickens are housed on one location in Pettibone, TX.

I find this extremely hard to believe.. actually I can't belive it. Your hatchery is currently maintaining broiler and sex link granparent stock? Highly doubt it. For you to feed 3 flocks to get off-spring to sell would cost you a fortune...not including the cost of the grandparent stock.. With a hatchery being all about production, cost, and drop shipping to keep up with demand... wouldn't go throught the added expense. You and I both know it's cheaper to buy the eggs or raise just the parent flocks.

What a buisness to be in. For people that want clean birds free of MG there are a lot of hatcheries out there that have this. Especially in the commercial strain of birds. Bigger companies such as Hubbard (and that's one of a handful) have a higher turnover rate than smaller hatcheries, meaning they have more breeders and are more likely to follow the all in all out method as they do not deal with fancy poultry. So if your looking for good layers or broilers those options are out there. Sad to say those that are looking for rare breeds have limited options.​

 

[idealpoultry]

fattie



View My BYC Page Re: Ideal poultryNo, ducks are in a separate order, they hatch on different dates. I have ordered from them many times, both ducklings & chicks. Maybe it depends on the breeds of ducks/chicks? Please disregard my original post about MG, I spoke with the owner, and he said Ideal has been MG+ for many years and intends to stay that way, as most flocks are already MG+, so bringing MG clean birds into your MG + flock could kill the clean birds, as they have no immunity built up. MG+ birds have immunity built up against the disease. FYI, Ideal is by far my favorite hatchery out of all of them. Their customer service is excellent, and they have nice birds. So it is up to us to make an informed decision. In light of this, I will continue to buy from them as long as my Dept. of Ag lets me.

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[faykokoWV]

I'm still trying to understand all of the uproar about MG. Before I read more about it and understood some about it I thought it was horrible dread disease and was afraid to even eat the eggs from an MG + chicken. After reading up on it, sounds a little like the human equivelent of staph bacteria or Herp. Zoster virus (chicken pox) We could all die from both of these if our immune system is low. Once you've had Chicken pox, you always carry the virus and can spread the virus at any point in your life if it flares up in the form of Shingles.

I would guess that a swab test of your skin would reveal you carry the staph bacteria as well. We've all heard the stories of MRSA killing people... MRSA stand for Methacylin resistant Staph Aureous. This strain basically developed due to the over use of antibiotics.

I understand we don't want to make our flocks sick at all or risk their health, but as with human, I think over protection can lead to a weaker immune system.