if my neighbor's dog jumps their fence and attacks my chicken coop

[citrusdreams]

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I'm sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough so that you misunderstood me. Sometimes that happens when I type and run off and do other things at the same time. I apologize.

I meant in the event that the dog in question is on Phishinchicken's property, harassing the chickens along their coop and pen fencing. In other words, when the dog is in Phishinchicken's yard. Dogs interested in penned-up chickens tend to rush the coop and pen, and run along it's length and around it, in a barking frenzy. That can just terrify the chickens into hurting themselves.

Again, I agree with you: you should not put a chicken coop and pen (or anything else that you don't want harassed) too close to your fenceline. It's unreasonable to expect your neighbors to keep their dogs from rushing their own fence when you've put something there to tempt them. Because, yes, you're right: it would be your own fault to subject your chickens to that. Dogs should be able to be morons on their own property. I know mine enjoy it completely and I can't complain because it keeps the predators away

People really ought to consider location when setting up their chicken homes. Predators should be a concern as well as shading, etc.

My chicken coop and pen is well within my property, and close to the house. It's more than 1500 feet away from the property line. So my neighbors' dogs have to cross 1500+ feet of my own property, and be in my backyard, to harass my chickens when they're penned. It's a challenge for those with smaller areas to not tempt other animals with their presence, but it can be done with lattice, tarping or privacy fences.

I have to clarify: Sometimes you can't help but attract predators to your fenceline. An example is when your whole property or parts of it are fenced in fields and you house cattle or other livestock there. Dogs can rush the fenceline all they want, but once they cross over...well that's another story. You can't exactly manage your cattle 500+ feet within your property line. That's why good fences make good neighbors

But putting chickens next to an outside fence, if you can manage to do different, is just trouble.

 

[panner123]

As for electric fences, everyone including me has an electric fence. This is except the late dogs' owner, who has NO FENCE at all. My fence has kept most bear from my chickens, but not all. My neighbors fences are mainly built to keep their animals in.
The gentleman that is in jail had a visitor today, his brother. He asked his brother to take good care of me, all the brother did was inform me of his wishes. He also told me that this is not the first time these dogs have killed livestock. They have also mauled a man in southern ca. and were to be put down. Only they moved before this happened. So these dogs were on borrowed time as was the owner. Once the judge hears this, I believe the gentleman will have a couple of years to think about his past, present and future.
I know it is against the the law, but I should have shot the owner of the dogs as well. Would have saved the state some money and Gods know the State of Ca. needs the money.

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

it depends. my dh is a cop and he has told me i am not allowed to shoot anything bc in any direction i shoot it will be illegal.

He's simply wrong.
Sounds to me like he just doesnt want YOU shooting at anything, but the LAW doesnt have any qualifiers listed.

IF you live inside CITY LIMITS, it may be illegal to discharge a firearm, but exceptions can be made for NECESSARY defense purposes​

 

[wohneli]

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Thats bad, but lololololol!!!!!!

 

[kagedgoddess]

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He's simply wrong.
Sounds to me like he just doesnt want YOU shooting at anything, but the LAW doesnt have any qualifiers listed.

IF you live inside CITY LIMITS, it may be illegal to discharge a firearm, but exceptions can be made for NECESSARY defense purposes

i would be shooting a firearm within 500 feet of a highway (road), And/or someones HOME, so it is illegal. AND IRRESPOSIBLE, what if i Missed??? if someone was breaking into my home, then i d be shooting them IN MY HOME, NOT outside near cars or homes. now it could be that 2 of the homes are far enuf away, But i can see them and therefore, IF i shot and missed and a bullet went into someones home, I am SURE i would be ina heap of trouble. i have seen HUNTERS arressted for stray bullets. not taking the chance

there are always little things you need tothink about and check on. ppl have gone to jail for shooting things theyve run over. saying someone is "simply wrong" is kinda presumptous. my point was to Check on your laws, dont just assume, im not in town, its ok... itsthe finer points that get ya, look at the guy in oregon for petes sake. do you want to go thru that?? not me.

 

[Boyd]

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Actually as a DHL driver and been bitten MANY MANY times I know this isn't true.. (as I've been in this situation).

For a while I carried mace, then dog mace, then bought a nice Kimber Mace Charged squirt type gun. Would drop the largest dog on the spot..... for the really nasty ones I had a Taser. Could I have carried and used a firearm with a CPL? Sure. Would I be justified in using it? Sure... but being bit as a deliveryman is automatically something between 5-10k from the homeowners insurance policy right off the bat. I prefer not to have to kill while on the job... really screws up your route schedule.

Then there are those little yappy dogs that break the skin around your ankles..... Sigh, I've kicked more than I can count Buster. Sometimes in front of the owners. Have I had to have the rabies shots? Sure. It sucks. I love my dogs, and am wary of anyone else's.

 

[purpletree23]

I love you Boyd....Make me laugh and have great advice. phishinchicken take my advice. The dog comes on your property shoot to kill. My very long story made short.

Neighbors dogs come over again and again
we get chickens
dog kills chicken
have to install taller stronger fence
dog owner charged $10 for on the loose dog and $100 for property damage
owner tells police officer he won't pay
my husband doesn't believe in guns
we do it his way
spend $$ on fence, police reports court fees and I have to go to the sherriffs office to get papers served for small claims court.
dogs keep coming on property we call police again and again and again (hubby wanted to do it that way so we do)
our case will be heard in small claims court until DECEMBER
owner going to court because he will not pay the fine and we both miss day of work because his %100 tied up dog did not cause damage.

Shoot the dog

.22 feels very good in my hands. Maybe I should just bonk the dog owner on the head with it

 

[Opa]

I never cease to be amazed at the number of people who move to the country, immediately buy a big dog, and let it run wild. Numerous times I have witnessed deer being chased to the point of exhaustion by Rover. A friend of mine was a park ranger and after watching several dogs chase a doe out onto new ice, where she her hind legs slip on the ice resulting in a hip dislocation that rendered her helpless, he shot the offending dogs. They both had collars that identified the owner. He took the dogs to the owners home and they informed him that it couldn't possibly have been their dogs. He had them a citation and the collars and advised them to tell their dogs not to loan the collars to others.

 

[panner123]

kagedgoddess, when you shoot DO NOT MISS.
A miss usually means a wounded animal, which is the worst kind of a predator. If I am afraid I might miss, I will not take the shot. Even at 300
yards with the gun I perfer, the bullet will most likely go though the animal.
For those of you that think, will I am only using a 22. Read what it says on the ammo box, range 1 mile. That means what it says, you can kill something up to 1 mile with a 22.
Don't just shoot for the sake of shooting. Think about where the bullet might go. I just moved from an area that you couldn't hit another house if you tried. To many trees and the nearest neighbors where way out of range. But someone could be hiking in the area. Many things need to be considered before you pull the trigger on a gun.
For those of you that have shot trap, when I was younger, the only way I could get a bet was to use a 410. After many lost even then, I had to use a 22 to give them a fair chance.
Growing up my cousin and I were given three 22
shells each to hunt with. We had to come home with 3 squirrels each and none could have a bullet hole in them. Some of you older hunters know the medoth we used, it is called barking. You get the squirrel on the side of the tree and shoot into the bark under its head. The bark goes up to the head and in most cases will kill the squirrel, if it doesn't it will knock the squirrle out and you can cut its throat.
DO NOT MISS, if you do you don't eat that night.

 

[jjdward]

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I will have to agree. You need to be aware of your area. I personaly use a pump 12gu with 00 buck. Shotguns don't have a very long range, when compared to a 22 or something, but you need to be careful regardless.