I'm asking about regular waterers that have a trough. NOT nipples or cups. So if you have one of those, how high do you put it up for regular heavy layers? Our chickens seem to be kicking shavings in it. I raised it another 6" or so but I'm afraid it's going to get rickety. I can't hang this type of waterer and don't really want to. Is there a better way to raise it? It's on bricks right now (leftovers from another project). I do not, at this time, use nipples or cups. I use a fount so I can set it on a heated base for winter. It gets too cold here to use the others in the winter, and I don't want to use an aquarium heater.