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[aart]

Yes, i do bave experince and research with this type of thing, i thought i mentioned that last post.

What is your experience......how many birds have you kept over how many years?

 

[Chicken poppy]

What is your experience......how many birds have you kept over how many years?

Ive recently got into chickens, so not many years. I currently have 4 chickens. Ive had 3 roosters. I dont own many, but i constantly go to help with chickens and have experience other then owning them. I go help people over some months with chickens, they have geese, ducks, and around 40 chickens. I know it doesnt sound like a bunch, but i do a lot of research, i have owned many animals aside from chickens, so i can say normal animals at that get picky at eating, and off of my chickens, and as i said before others to, they can get picky at eating. Also, we are buying ayam cemanis and serama chickens very soon, and we have incubated ours from eggs, so we know a bit.

 

[Kiki]

Anything other than their feed is a treat. That is absolutely not true that treats can be a part of their diet with no issues. It's dangerous and misleading to not state that treats must not exceed 10% of the diet. I lost a RIR pullet to fatty liver syndrome from mealworms exceeding that percentage of her diet.

Maybe @Kiki would like to chime in about treats.

ETA: Black Oil Sunflower Seeds, the sunflower seeds most commonly fed to chickens, are very high in fat and while good in moderation can be extremely unhealthy for the bird and can lead to obesity.

I do not believe in treats of any kind.... I believe in a complete balanced diet.

I believe the chickens are healthier when they are fed a balanced diet.

I believe that If people would understand that one of top reasons birds get deathly illnesses is because they are overweight because they get fed too many treats that they would stop feeding treats.



Sorry guys I did not read this thread I am responding only to the post I was tagged in.

 

[Chicken poppy]

I do not believe in treats of any kind.... I believe in a complete balanced diet.

I believe the chickens are healthier when they are fed a balanced diet.

I believe that If people would understand that one of top reasons birds get deathly illnesses is because they are overweight because they get fed too many treats that they would stop feeding treats.



Sorry guys I did not read this thread I am responding only to the post I was tagged in.

Yes, thank you for responding to it. Sorry for all the confusion guys. im probably not understanding everything, but i think there was a bit of a mix up in the questions. I was talking sbout sunflower seeds in that post, not saying “giving them as their diet is perfectly fine!“ (i did say that, but i said that with sunflower seeds, and as said before, if their apart of meals and not constantly constantly fed, i think its fine. It provides protien + viatmin E which is great for wry neck. I suppose what i consider treats could be a bit different, i consider ”treats” being grains and other meal like alfalfa, not sugary sweets and junky things for chickens.

 

[Kiki]

Yes, thank you for responding to it. Sorry for all the confusion guys. im probably not understanding everything, but i think there was a bit of a mix up in the questions. I was talking sbout sunflower seeds in that post, not saying “giving them as their diet is perfectly fine!“ (i did say that, but i said that with sunflower seeds, and as said before, if their apart of meals and not constantly constantly fed, i think its fine. It provides protien + viatmin E which is great for wry neck. I suppose what i consider treats could be a bit different, i consider ”treats” being grains and other meal like alfalfa, not sugary sweets and junky things for chickens.

If you're feeding sunflower seeds daily it is not fine unless it is a teeny tiny amount.
If you feed a teeny tiny amount of sunflower seeds once a week it is fine but not daily.

It really is best if you don't feed daily treats of any kind.
Once a week and maybe a a tablespoon worth per bird is okay but that's an extremely small amount and most people feed handfuls per bird.

 

[Chicken poppy]

If you're feeding sunflower seeds daily it is not fine unless it is a teeny tiny amount.
If you feed a teeny tiny amount of sunflower seeds once a week it is fine but not daily.

It really is best if you don't feed daily treats of any kind.
Once a week and maybe a a tablespoon worth per bird is okay but that's an extremely small amount and most people feed handfuls per bird.

If their apart of meals and not constantly constantly fed is what i had said I do agree, but feeding them in their meals is fine as long as its not constant

 

[Kiki]

If their apart of meals and not constantly constantly fed is what i had said I do agree, but feeding them in their meals is fine as long as its not constant

I truly hope your birds never have to end up suffering because they are fed too many treats. Honestly.

 

[topochico225]

feeding them in their meals is fine as long as its not constant

You feed your birds daily, hopefully, so putting sunflower seeds in every meal is definitely constant.

 

[topochico225]

If their apart of meals and not constantly constantly fed is what i had said I do agree, but feeding them in their meals is fine as long as its not constant

Also, do you have a source for where you're getting this information? A credible scientific study, not some chicken blog?

I ask because Kiki is considered one of the feeding experts on BYC, and I'd like to see credible proof against her statements, knowing that she has put time, effort, and research into her point of view.

 

[Chicken poppy]

You feed your birds daily, hopefully, so putting sunflower seeds in every meal is definitely constant.

Guys, please, i never said i put it in my birds meals daily at all, heck, i barely said i put them in every meal, i just said not to do it constant, im sorry if im causing all this drama, ill delete the thread if its that big of a deal. Aplologizes.