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[Chicken poppy]

Just curious, what do you feed your flock? Have you tried Purina? Whats your recommended brand?

I currently use Purina Flock raiser but sometimes Grower 20%

We feed ours purina aswell i think, i think we used to do manna pro, but really purina now.

 

[Mrs J]

OK, "Feathers and Beaky" is one of your local brands. They don't publish their nutrition info where I can quickly find it on the web, but based on the way they are market positioning themselves, and their available feed varieties, I'm going to recommend against them until I can see an ingredients list and a nutrition label.

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Fancy Feed Company has a "Breeder and Show" mini-pellet. Its partial nutrition is 17.5% protein, 5% fat, 4.75% fiber. That's in the acceptable US range (only a bit low on protein for us), and the website makes specific mention of Methionine, Lysine, and Selenium, as well as discussing wheat (which is, in my opinion, a much better place to start building a chicken feed from than corn). This would be a good choice.

Ingredients are here - Wheat, Wheatfeed, Extracted Soya Bean Meal, Micronised Soya, Calcium Carbonate, Alfalfa Meal, Micronised Linseed, Soya Oil, Dicalcium Phosphate, Vitamins & Minerals, Biomos®, Sel-Plex®.

Soy and alfalfa are both important legumes in complimenting the areas where wheat provides an incomplete protein.


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Allen & Page has a very thorough "Freeholder Range" line. My internet isn't stable enough (or fast enough, I'm on a cell phone) to check it out, but their website is long on their "all vegan, no artificial" advertising. Its almost impossible to make a nutritionally complete chicken feed without some form of animal (or insect or fish) protein, and don't personally value Organic (or Vegan) above meeting nutritional needs, so I'm going to recommend you pass on them, too. I got one page to load, and its as disappointing as I expected.

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Copdock Mill is here. I've reviewed their producst and ingredients, I can't recommend any of them with the information available there. Their "Grower's Pellets" is the closest they have to what we would call an All FLock blend, and the offered amino acid levels are what we would call minimal. This is "possibly acceptable, not recommended". See how much shorter the ingredient list is than in the Fancy Feed? In this case, that's not an improvement. You can't get a complete protein out of the plant world, so you are always mixing a combination of plants to try and get the right balance. Copdock is trying to make a two legged chair here.

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Is there another brand you would like me to look at???

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this information for me that really is so kind of you! It is midnight here now ( I have my 3yr old grandson here for the weekend, who I can guarantee will wake up at 6am ) so I really need to get myself to bed, but I will follow this information up in the morning. Thanks once again and goodnight

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this information for me that really is so kind of you! It is midnight here now ( I have my 3yr old grandson here for the weekend, who I can guarantee will wake up at 6am ) so I really need to get myself to bed, but I will follow this information up in the morning. Thanks once again and goodnight

Its what BYC is about. Happy to help. Get some sleep.

 

[Chicken poppy]

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this information for me that really is so kind of you! It is midnight here now ( I have my 3yr old grandson here for the weekend, who I can guarantee will wake up at 6am ) so I really need to get myself to bed, but I will follow this information up in the morning. Thanks once again and goodnight

Thats earlier then i wake up! Jealous. Have a nice rest

 

[Chicken poppy]

Its what BYC is about. Happy to help. Get some sleep.

Its very detailed information, i cant beileve the vegan animal feed, i found a vegan cat food Yesterday, to me thats insane, they need some protein, it literally had cornstarch and some water and just gross stuff.

 

[Chicken poppy]

Cakes coming good, in the fridge. (unrelated) hopefully worth the flour mess on the floor.

 

[aart]

I choose to believe that the OP means well, but is very young. Their eagerness exceeded their wisdom, and clouded an accurate self-assessment of their expertise.

Yes.

i was trying to figure out what exactly i did wrong?

@MTKitty summed it up nicely.....( much like I did by looking at your other threads and posts and noting the lack of experience, which is why I questioned your experience).

So, I read your Answer-of-the-Day and other posts.

What I saw was a post offering virtual veterinary consults (disclaiming your status as a vet but claiming much experience) and periodic advice posts (again, claiming much experience). When you answered @aart’s question about experience, it seems to be four chickens you’ve had for several months.

I also hope y'all.....

With the incredible number of new keepers flocking (sorry, it was too easy) to this site for information, I hope you can understand why these discrepancies cause the established forum experts great concern.

Going to go bake some cake now, thanks to everyone again, sorry for all the confusion. (for everyone who doesnt know, i feed my chickens a great diet, not quite sure why people thought i fed them treats daily, but they get their chicken feed crumbles, mash, grains and seeds and sometimes some hemp. We have free growing plants here like oregano, mung bean sprouts, that sort of thing. they get well balanced meals and their only treat they get is occasional alfalfa. And they have nice scratch like grains and cracked corn.

Everything you list other than the crumbles are 'treats'.

 

[Chicken poppy]

Yes.


@MTKitty summed it up nicely.....( much like I did by looking at your other threads and posts and noting the lack of experience, which is why I questioned your experience).


I also hope y'all.....





Everything you list other than the crumbles are 'treats'.

I know the plants and such, those they dont get fully as food. i dont think other then scratch, feed, grains and such theres much as their average food base, i could be wrong. Thats their typical eating in a day, sometimes they get some oregano, alfalfa. There could be something im missing, if i am i will absolutely add it to their feed.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Its very detailed information, i cant beileve the vegan animal feed, i found a vegan cat food Yesterday, to me thats insane, they need some protein, it literally had cornstarch and some water and just gross stuff.

This thread? I was sloppy. I've been sloppy and shortcutting all day.

A bit of advice, which you are certainly free to disregard.

Like you, I lack experience. I've only been at this 18 months or so, I have just 70-odd birds, mostly mutts, inclusive of two handfuls of Pekin ducks. I've been an NPIP participant and a registered business in my State less than a year. There are several BYC forums which I read, but never commment on (or comment rarely, with substantial caveat to indicate my inexperience) - Bird Identification, Genetics, Breeding to the SoP, "Help, my bird is Sick/Injured", Predators and Pests, etc. On those topics, my extremely limited experience is an anecdotal opinion, not worthy of any weight or reliance. Even my own feeding program, over a hundred pounds a week, maybe gaining experience rapidly, but it will be years before I can draw much conclusion from it. Right now, I'm still identifying variables.

...and yet, I'm gaining some respect and recognition here on BYC regarding poultry feeding, though I'm not an avain nutritionist, I hold no degrees in livestock management, and have (essentially) no experience. My opinion deserves no weight on its own, I have no personal authority on which to base it. All of my "authority" comes from the efforts of others.

So WHY do people read my posts (mostly) approvingly? I offer the limits of my knowledge and acknowledge those limits, I explain my thinking, I link my sources, I show my work, I welcome additional information which broadens my knowledge, and I accept correction (mostly).

Its up to the reader to decide whether or no those things have value to them.

At times, I make a passable attempt at being a decent human being. Mostly, I'm not fit for human company except in very small doses.

I'm not an Aart, a CMom, a Kiki, a RoostersAreAwesome, a 3KillerBees, an Egcessive, Wyorp Rock, Overo Mare, NatJ, Tre3hugger, or any of at least two dozens others whom I learned greatly from THEIR experience. All I have is my reputation for trying to be an honest broker of information.

You don't have to do it "my" way, there is no *one* "true" right way. But there are thousands of wrong ways, and, I submit, you might learn a bit from my example.

 

[Chicken poppy]

This thread? I was sloppy. I've been sloppy and shortcutting all day.

A bit of advice, which you are certainly free to disregard.

Like you, I lack experience. I've only been at this 18 months or so, I have just 70-odd birds, mostly mutts, inclusive of two handfuls of Pekin ducks. I've been an NPIP participant and a registered business in my State less than a year. There are several BYC forums which I read, but never commment on (or comment rarely, with substantial caveat to indicate my inexperience) - Bird Identification, Genetics, Breeding to the SoP, "Help, my bird is Sick/Injured", Predators and Pests, etc. On those topics, my extremely limited experience is an anecdotal opinion, not worthy of any weight or reliance. Even my own feeding program, over a hundred pounds a week, maybe gaining experience rapidly, but it will be years before I can draw much conclusion from it. Right now, I'm still identifying variables.

...and yet, I'm gaining some respect and recognition here on BYC regarding poultry feeding, though I'm not an avain nutritionist, I hold no degrees in livestock management, and have (essentially) no experience. My opinion deserves no weight on its own, I have no personal authority on which to base it. All of my "authority" comes from the efforts of others.

So WHY do people read my posts (mostly) approvingly? I offer the limits of my knowledge and acknowledge those limits, I explain my thinking, I link my sources, I show my work, I welcome additional information which broadens my knowledge, and I accept correction (mostly).

Its up to the reader to decide whether or no those things have value to them.

At times, I make a passable attempt at being a decent human being. Mostly, I'm not fit for human company except in very small doses.

I'm not an Aart, a CMom, a Kiki, a RoostersAreAwesome, a 3KillerBees, an Egcessive, Wyorp Rock, Overo Mare, NatJ, Tre3hugger, or any of at least two dozens others whom I learned greatly from THEIR experience. All I have is my reputation for trying to be an honest broker of information.

You don't have to do it "my" way, there is no *one* "true" right way. But there are thousands of wrong ways, and, I submit, you might learn a bit from my example.

Thank you, i really try and stay away from wounds and stuff like that, and try to stick things i know, but i hate it when i make errors (genuine errors, not information i dont know) because it influences bad things to some people and just seems stupid, thank you for your advice. I think ill stay away from major things until i get the hang of it.