Illegal chickens in the news in La Mesa, CA (near San Diego)

Hi Libby ~
I'll send you a private message if that's possible to give you my contact info. Basically, you have two options available to keep your chickens.

1. Get the city to introduce a measure to officially consider changing the law BEFORE your deadline to get rid of your birds, and then anything they've done against you goes on hold until the council votes on whether or not to legalize chickens. (This is the more difficult option)

2. Find out which neighbor squealed on you. Talk to them. Offer them eggs. Ask what their concerns are and see if you can address their concerns between you as neighbors. Then ask them to tell the city that you've gotten rid of your chickens, even though you haven't. The city will never actually come check, I PROMISE. Their only check on it is by asking whichever neighbor complained. And actually, the city doesn't care if you have chickens. They just care that you don't piss of your neighbors.

The main issue going on is that it costs the city $16,000 in fees and staff time to change the ordinance to allow chickens. They don't want to spend it, although they might be moving toward that direction. DEFINITELY tell the city council and mayor that you want laying hens legalized please. I can give you their emails or you can find them on the city site. So it's inconvenient to them that the no chicken law remains standing and they don't see the urgency to change it, so they have to enforce it in the meantime. They basically deal with it by tolerating chickens for anyone unless the neighbors complain. Once there's a complaint, they enforce the law. But they never go check. They just ask the neighbor if the chickens are gone, which basically means "did you resolve your problem" whether the chickens are gone or not.

Some neighbors are reasonable. If you offer to move the coop, give them eggs, tell them you want open lines of communication in case they have any future problems, they might be ok. Some are just psycho. My next door neighbor's landlord is in that category. Not only is she psycho, she lies. She blamed my chickens for HER property's rat problem, even though the chickens are on my property and WE don't have a rat problem. You'd think if the chickens caused the rats, that rats would be over here too. She put rat poison in my compost. She lied to my roommate that she had already called the city (on a SUNDAY when the city is closed) and someone would be out to check our property the next day (which the city doesn't do). Then she lied to me that it wasn't her who complained, it was her tenants. And that's a lie. They put up with our chickens because we put up with their chihuahuas, which are much louder than chickens. And we give them eggs. Ugh. Anyway, it's nasty people like her who are why we need the law changed. Then, if I'm being a good neighbor with my chickens, who don't stink or attract pests or cause disease, who do nothing besides make delicious eggs, it won't matter if the house next door belongs to a nutcase.
 
Jill, Do you know what the actual La Mesa ordinance is on chickens? Do they have a zoning map and acreage requirements?
 
Yes, they have a zoning map and acreage requirements at present. Two zones east of the 125 with properties over 1/3 acre can have up to 20 chickens now. But they are in the process of updating the General Plan and the draft of the updated General Plan says that single family homes will be allowed to keep a few hens.
 
Thank you for the update. I have a rather large land in La Mesa and have started gardening for health. Not only are the vegetables better- but it's great for mental health as well.

I just read about how much better eggs from chickens are, and I love love love animals too. But really- we can't in La Mesa?

How can I get further involved in this? (I've given my suggestions for the General Plan). Yo-Madrid- I will make you a mean omelet.

~Joniene
 
If your neighbors are OK with you having chickens, get chickens. Ask your neighbors first, ask if they have any requests or concerns (like not putting the coop too close to their yard) and offer them eggs. Once you get the chickens, check back with the neighbors again to make sure they aren't upset over anything and see if there's anything that needs to be changed to keep them happy. My neighbors love my chickens, actually. And the neighbors who the chickens are closest to - the ones who can really see and hear them - have a bunch of chihuahuas, and they realize that their dogs yap all the time so there's nothing they can say about my chickens clucking.

the city really doesn't have a problem with anyone having chickens so long as they don't bug their neighbors. Plus, all enforcement is on a complaint basis. Somebody complains, then they send you a letter telling you to get rid of the chickens. They never come to your yard to check. They just call whoever complained back and ask if the chickens are gone. The worst they can do is threaten a $1000 fine, but they don't do that with the first complaint. But once you get attached to your girls and invest in a coop, you really wouldn't want to have to give them up because someone complained.
 
I see that this post is from a couple of years ago. Does anyone know if chickens are still illegal in La Mesa. I have heard so many different answers from different people, but have yet to find anything solid on it.

Thanks!
 
Illegal but tolerated. So if your neighbors don't complain, you're good. If your neighbors complain, the city asks you to get rid of them.

The city is VERY SLOWLY changing the laws. They are putting something about chickens in the new General Plan, and then after that's finalized they'll need to actually change the zoning ordinance to allow hens (no roosters).
 
Has there bee n any forward movement in making hen's legal here in La Mesa. I goggled it and thought you could keep them. I went and bought 6 chicks and am now building a coop. I found your thread and have realized they are illegal. I have 4 children that picked out their own chicks. I'm a little worried about them now. I took the survey and was wondering if there is anything else I can do?
 
No change - YET, but you're OK unless your neighbors complain. The situation now is that they are illegal but "tolerated" so long as nobody complains. Don't go on TV saying you have illegal chickens, or anything, but you're otherwise OK. Just, you know, give your neighbors some eggs.

Also, there was a public hearing about the new general plan tonight. I don't know what happened there but I've heard talk about including legalized chickens in the general plan. And if that happens, then the city will have to follow up by passing a new zoning ordinance that actually legalizes them.
 

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