I'm being dumb: what does BBS stand for?

[suzpyoung]

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Oh shoot, I sure hope I didn't do that!!

 

[Junkmanme]

RE: ACRONYMS

No apologies here for that posting.

Most of the postings here are for mutual information sharing, and I believe the abbreviations too often "defeat the purpose" of education, rather than enhance it.

CERTAINLY, other folks are entitled to differing opinions, even though on THIS "I am right".

that's 4 pesos worth, I suppose.
-Junkmanme-

 

[walkswithdog]

Dude, given the value of a single peso, maybe that was about 800 pesos worth...

 

[Junkmanme]

walks with dog,

Thank YOU for what I will take as a "compliment".

(For information purposes, I'm nowhere near being a "dude". In this country -out WEST- a "dude" is a "greenhorn". I ain't a "greenhorn".)

couple more pesos worth......

-Junkmanme-

 

[JoAnn_WI_4-H_Mom]

Sooo....My DS says it is like this

Each bird has two color chromosomes.

Black bird has two Blacks.

Grey (Blue) bird has 1 Black and 1 Dilute (diluted black is grey)

Splash bird has two Dilutes (making a really light gray bird)

If you mate two birds, each passes one chromo to the chick. As each has two and could pass either, there are 4 permutations:
Mom 1 + Dad 1
Mom 1 + Dad 2
Mom 2 + Dad 1
Mom 2 + Dad 2

Therefore, if you mate Black to Black, you should get all Black offspring as no one has any Dilutes to pass to the chicks.

However if you mate two Grey/Blues
Hen: Black Dilute Rooster: Black Dilute
The possibilities are
Black Black Black
Black Dilute Grey/Blue
Dilute Black Grey/Blue
Dilute Dilute Splash

One can map the other possible combinations to see what the expected percentages are.

My dilemma is that I have some mostly black birds with grey rumps. Are they Black or Blue? What should I expect from a mating?

 

[walkswithdog]

I know what a Dude is to you folks but since I was stating the obvious it sort of fit and I had to live through that generation too. Some of it unfortunately clung to me like a bad cow patty. So I beg forgiveness for an unfortunate use of bad slang LOL.

Dude as in Dude Ranch. Which is a sad and silly place.

But I grew up in CA, and might be forgiven that some of it unfortunately stuck to me. I swear I was never a dude, never said dudette, never spoke Valley Girl and wore boot cut jeans my entire childhood and most of my adulthood and am back in them now, pretty much full time.

I worked for Casey Tibbs in my youth, rode a little with Jack Ford when he fiddled with riding, (special service agents look stupid on horseback) and have been stepped on, bit and kicked by all manner of four-legged hooved critters.

So Mea Culpa on the use of the slang...

 

[Junkmanme]

 

[walkswithdog]

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Gray and blue are not interchangeable terms and the genetics are DIFFERENT significantly.

Gray is a silver and pg based bird, and is not a BBS based bird so it does not apply.

And no, your possibilities are incorrect since blue to blue can yield, blue, black and splash.

I am pretty sure a blue - you call it gray, rump means you have very dark blues not blacks. My blacks have no blue (lighter) rump feathers. Only my black(with red) lacking melanizers, has a lighter rump and he may be a dark blue with red instead, only breeding will tell his actual genetics, in either case he is not a true black bird.

 

[suzpyoung]

What does "pg based" mean?

I have a black Ameraucana that has a lot of green shimmering - does that mean she's not a true black? And my blue Ameraucana has a few black flecks, and after reading all this I assume she's technically a dilute black bird? Cool stuff!

 

[walkswithdog]

Pg - genetic short hand for partridge genes.

A gray bird is a partridge gened bird, not a variety of either blue or black. They're most apparent at birth because they appear like a washed out partridge or chipmunk marked chick.

A black bird, visibly, may be a host of other bits of things underneath.

A black bird with visible Bits of stuff showing would have slightly different genetics than a visibly black bird.

Over on the Breeds thread is where genetics gets batted around like a tennisball. Come on over and enjoy. The genetics of white, blue (bbs) and black should keep you, and is still keeping me, quite busy... LOL