I'm confused about endangered lists

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Rusty Hills Farm, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. Rusty Hills Farm

    Rusty Hills Farm Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 3, 2008
    Up at the barn
    I've been reading on both the antiquities site and the breed conservation site and both list Araucana as one of the endangered breeds, but neither lists the Ameraucana. What I am trying to understand is if they are lumping the 2 breeds together when they count or if Ameraucanas are really not endangered? Or are they not considering it a breed at all? If it is the last one, why wouldn't they consider it a breed since APA does? And since Araucanas have only been on the APA list since around '76 and the Ameraucanas since about '84, why would one be counted and the other not counted?

    Like I said, the whole thing has me confused. Does anyone here know or do I need to contact the antiquities folks and the breed conservation folks and would they be able to give me an answer? Who should I ask?

    Bottom line is that I cannot believe that the true Ameraucanas are NOT endangered, if only because there are soooo many EEs being passed off as Ameraucanas that the gene pool for pure Ameraucanas could easily be disappearing.

  2. WestKnollAmy

    WestKnollAmy The Crazy Chicken Lady Premium Member

    Apr 22, 2008
    upstate SC
    From what I have learned about the Araucanas is the lethal gene they can present. Those eggs don't hatch.
    And when the eggs do hatch, some of them are not going to be tufted or may have only one on one side or even 2 tufts on one side but the breeders still have to hatch a very large amount of eggs to get what is considered true Araucanas to pass on the correct genes. Some even come out and grow a long feather coming out the rump or the chicks hatch out and have such a short spine that they don't survive but a few weeks.
    The Ameraucanas are a bit easier to breed. They don't seem to have all the health and lethal problems. People seem to like to raise them and they seem to more popular at the shows.
    Araucanas are a very difficult breed, as I am finding out. But when you get that beautiful correct specimen, you wonder, do I chance taking it to a show and have something happen to it or do I breed it and keep it safely at home? After trying to hatch out hundreds of eggs and only getting one that looks show quality, it is a difficult decision and may be at home in a coop instead of at the shows.
    That is just my 2 cents worth on the subject.
  3. Rusty Hills Farm

    Rusty Hills Farm Chillin' With My Peeps

    Apr 3, 2008
    Up at the barn
    Thanks! That does indeed explain why one is endangered and the other may not be. I knew there was a lethal gene involved but had no idea how complicated breeding Araucanas really is.

    You've really helped! TY!

  4. chicken_boy_Kurt

    chicken_boy_Kurt Chillin' With My Peeps

    Mar 20, 2008
    Americaunas are more popular. Therefore they don't need conservation help. But the Aracaunas, like Nadine said, have a a lethal gene so most people don't consider breeding them.

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