Impacted crop to ... doughy or squishy crop?

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I have a Brahma hen that I realized had an impacted crop. She had been drinking excessively and then I saw water come out of her beak. Her poop was liquidy. I read all the articles on crop issues on here and after feeling her crop, which was hard like a baseball, I gave her olive oil with a syringe and massaged her crop. It did go down some. (I have not had much experience feeling crops). I did this twice. I have to add that she has not acted sickly at all, except immediately after the first olive oil treatment, when she sat under a bench by herself, hunched up. I did let her have supper with her friends, as the hardness had gone down and she acted normal now. (Ground layer feed mixed with milk/water) The following morning her crop was not hard, but also not empty. It felt squishy. Her overnight poop was solid. She had to miss breakfast and I did the olive oil again and massaged. About 3 hours later I felt her crop again and I thought it had gone down. I made her mashed boiled egg with olive oil. She ate with gusto. Again, she acted fine all day. She got regular supper with the others. This morning her crop, again, was not empty. I compared it to several other crops. They were all flat, and hers was squishy, not baseball like. Instead of olive oil, I crushed up a Senokot pill (8.6 mg sennosides and 50 mg docusate sodium), mixed it with water and syringed half of it into her beak. I also checked her vent and abdomen. There didn’t seem to be an egg in there. I watched her and saw her drink several times. About an hour later, her crop felt flatter, and she got more egg with oil.
I realize that I did not follow the protocol of fasting her 24 hours or even seperating her. The reason for that is 1. that she has been acting normal throughout this whole time and 2. her and her 3 friends are still new here and I did not want to stress her out more than I had to.
I bought these 4 Brahmas as 2 year old adults in August of this year. They are very skittish and also have not started laying for me. I have 5 other chickens, that are obviously not nice to them. But these new ones have their own space, and they choose when they want to mingle with the others.
I have given them Verm-x regularly, 3 days in a row, every month.
I would like to see the crop emptying overnight.
Any advice would be great!
 
I crushed up a Senokot pill (8.6 mg sennosides and 50 mg docusate sodium), mixed it with water and syringed half of it into her beak.
Where are you located in the world?

I would be hesitant to give the Senokot if it has a laxative in it (sennosides). Stool Softener (stimulant/laxative free) is what is normally given.
Get some Docusate Sodium and give her 1 whole pill.
With the crop being squishy, it may be turning sour, but see if it will empty with the stool softener and coconut oil if you have that. Careful syringing liquid oil so she doesn't aspirate, coconut oil can be given in small chunks that she can eat. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

Photos of her poop may help too.

Verm X is not a de-wormer so if you feel worms may be an issue, then ask your vet to perform a fecal float or administer a de-wormer.
 
Where are you located in the world?

I would be hesitant to give the Senokot if it has a laxative in it (sennosides). Stool Softener (stimulant/laxative free) is what is normally given.
Get some Docusate Sodium and give her 1 whole pill.
With the crop being squishy, it may be turning sour, but see if it will empty with the stool softener and coconut oil if you have that. Careful syringing liquid oil so she doesn't aspirate, coconut oil can be given in small chunks that she can eat. https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

Photos of her poop may help too.

Verm X is not a de-wormer so if you feel worms may be an issue, then ask your vet to perform a fecal float or administer a de-wormer.

It is absolutely necessary to stop her from eating for a period of time.

We are in Manitoba, Canada.
The Sennocot is what I had on hand, it says natural laxative on it. Ok, I won’t give that again.
I will fast her and give her coconut oil in pieces, until I get some non laxative stool softener.
I didn’t think it was a worm issue. All my chickens gets the verm-x as a natural preventative.
I will try and get a picture of her poop.
 
We are in Manitoba, Canada.
The Sennocot is what I had on hand, it says natural laxative on it. Ok, I won’t give that again.
I will fast her and give her coconut oil in pieces, until I get some non laxative stool softener.
I didn’t think it was a worm issue. All my chickens gets the verm-x as a natural preventative.
I will try and get a picture of her poop.
I assume I have to keep her off feed until the crop is totally empty, is that correct?
Also, how long can this take?
Thanks
If you withhold feed, she still needs to have plenty of water available.
I would not withhold feed for more than 24hrs. Then let her have a little wet soupy feed (soaked feed).
Hopefully the crop will begin to empty. You may find that you need to treat for sour crop even though you don't detect an odor.
Do keep in mind that a crop issue is usually a symptom of an underlying condition - some common ones are reproductive disorders, infection, coccidiosis and worms.

Let us know how she's doing.
 
Unfortunately my patient had a hard baseball again this morning.
She must have picked up bedding or anything she could find.
She was moving about with everyone else, looking hungry this morning. She has fasted since 9 am yesterday. It is 8:20 here now.
So, now she is in a cage on a sheet. She had more coconut oil, a massage, and is provided with electrolyte water. Is that ok, or should it be plain water, or both?
I have her in the house. Here she is:
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This was her poop from last night:
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