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Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by crazy huhn, Mar 27, 2009.

  1. crazy huhn

    crazy huhn Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 24, 2008
    I do have a hen who is not herself anymore for almost a week now. She seems that she has lost weight and does not eat any scratch grains anymore.
    I checked for visible parasites, did not see any, but treated with poultry dust anyways. I mixed Diatomaceus Earth in their layer crumble and spread it in the run, too.
    Two days ago I noticed a bigger crop than usual plus a slightly bad smell. I can feel scratch grains in her crop, so I syringed oil and massaged the crop. In addition I was withholding her food for 24 hrs, but gave her water with vitamins, electrolyes and ACV. It seemed smaller after 24 hrs, but I can still feel some scratch grains in there. I gave her some layer (processed in the food processor) with lots of probiotic yoghurt and hard boiled egg yolk crumble. She ate some of that, but big crop is back now (still in the morning) with some but less scratch grains in there.
    Should I keep doing the oiling/massaging? Is it time for crop surgery? Is it possible that even if she passes scratch grains through the crop with the oil, it might just get stuck somewhere else. Any other good ideas how to help her?

    UPDATE: I DID IT! I was feeling a strange object in her crop after doing this for 4 days, so I decided to do the surgery as it is described in the sticky post under emergencies for crop impaction. I should have done it earlier!!! It was easy, cut through the skin, cut into the crop. I cleaned it out and removed a piece of charcoal of good size out of her crop. She always likes to fly over the fence and must have gotten into my vegetable bed. Several years ago not anymore, when I did not have chickens) I have put ashes from the fire place or BBQ into my compost and later on the compost into my veggie garden. Guess, that is how she ate it.
    Surgery went well, did not bleed much and I stopped it just with a sterile pad and some pressure, without stitches. She started to eat just a few hours later: soupy layer w/yoghurt, water see above....
    After 4 days I have let her out of my hospital (dog transportation kennel), back with the flock. Some minor pecking order fights and establishments, but nothing serious. Today, a week later, she is eating, drinking, dust bathing etc. like nothing has ever happened. My only concern is, that she needs to put weight back on. Any suggestions?
    Last edited: Apr 2, 2009
  2. nzpouter

    nzpouter Chillin' With My Peeps

    Jan 19, 2009
    new zealand
    keep the yoghurt and oil, less feeding, blockage can be in the gizard... not much you can do if it is.
  3. hinkjc

    hinkjc Overrun With Chickens Premium Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    What you are feeling is probably grit in her crop, not residual scratch grains. Of course, I could be wrong but they do hold the grit for quite some time for when they intake food it can break it down for digestion.

    I would not do surgery if the crop has showed signs of reducing. That is only for severly impacted crops.
  4. crazy huhn

    crazy huhn Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 24, 2008
    I do not think that it is just grit. If I massage it or pinch it, sometimes I can actually see some big pieces of corn under the skin in the crop. After syringing her oil and/or the ACV water/electrolyte-vitamin mixture it had softed the other seeds in there, so I was able to break them by pinching them through massaging, but not the hard corn kennels.
  5. crazy huhn

    crazy huhn Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 24, 2008
    UPDATE: see original post...........encouraging!!!

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