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[attimus]

Well, if you must know, I stutter

your really laying it on thick aren't you?

 

[kwhites634]

Is it dark where y'all live

Only at night

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: No more than normal. Actually, I'm a bit off my game; don't have my best stuff tonight

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Quote: Yes it is, I got in my long career a lot of Acknowledgments from principals and school inspectors abaout the good job and all the blabla bla, it is never Never interested me or moved me, but when I got it from my Graduate student, that basically don't owe me nothing it is always emotional because I know that it is a TRUE appreciation!

Congratulations! I feel the same way - I've gotten various teaching awards and such, but one of my favorites was when, at the end of the gastrointestinal module, the students presented me with a homemade scarf that one of them had made from felt to resemble the human GI tract. Best part is the little gallbladder hanging off in the middle...

Hello everybody! Tried to catch up a little but only had minutes, not days. I want to post some pics soon of some recent chicks but will have to do it later when my Hughes net and camera are getting along!

My "yard pet" Serama just got a reserve champ at a large show!

Hotter than H.... here. I lost three hens from heat stroke. That's the first time any have actually died from it. Usually I can get them cooled off in time. I have another that was in a coma all day yesterday. I found her in the last stages of heatstroke and started treating her. Today she opens her eyes. I'll give her a bit longer and see if she starts responding or if her brain is damaged....

She's just sleeping so at least i don't think she's suffering now. I hate it when I have an injured or sick chicken and my efforts prolong their suffering and then they die anyway. Sometimes it's just too hard to tell if they're going to pull through or not.

I hope everyone is staying out of the heat the best they can, and if anybody's getting any rain, please send a little my way.

So sorry to hear this.

Here is Joe with his girlfriend....



Joe taking a bow. Apparently, thinking he's a peacock is a good thing in a show!

I LOVE these photos! It's almost enough to make me want seramas. Almost.

Quote: I asked him some questions on email (including what to do re: the NNs in there with the CLs who started living with them at 4 weeks), and he emailed me back and confirmed my impression (so helpful!).


It's common to be exposed in most flocks (folks just don't know it), and incidence of clinical disease is very low. I could have an ALV-free flock if I destroyed EVERYTHING and started over with CERTIFIED ALV free eggs. But it seems that it's hard to find certified free sources, and most folks don't do that, and the REAL key is to prevent exposure to infection really early in life, during incubation or from a hatch mate (so, not hatch from affected birds with tumors and lots of virus - and not let those babies be with other babies if you do), because they end up tolerant, don't develop antibodies, and are likely to get tumors - in other words, babies from Paula and their hatch mates are all very high risk to not only get tumors but to be viremic for the rest of their lives if they don't. (So, important for those who hatch - this would be an advantage to hatching and brooding separately if you thought some eggs might be affected), So - probably culling the CL pullets in that group (once I work up to it).

On the other hand, birds exposed after about age 12 weeks are likely to just develop antibody, clear the virus, and not pass it to eggs per Merck Manual. (Same for older males mating and getting exposed). So, I am fortunate that I have kept groups separate as they have grown. The question is the two Naked Necks that have lived with the affected CLs since age 4 weeks. The way he put it, hopefully they were old enough to have developed an immune response, depending on their level of genetic resistance, in which case the infection would be shut down and eliminated. There is a risk there, but there is not a high risk of them infecting Tank in a way that would lead to him being ill, since he's so much older.

He also said that eventually, even if I did NOTHING, the disease would be reduced to a small percentage that would be an annoyance, nothing more.

I still have rearranged plans to figure out, but LOVE the Poultry Diagnostic Lab!!!!

Quote: Very smart. In the northwest mountains in Vietnam, we were in a van taking us to our hiking destination - driving on steep winding dirt roads on mountains WITHOUT the nice safety barrier like seen in the photo. Pretty sure our driver was high. Terrifying leg of the trip, I gotta say. Better to be in control of that mess yourself when you can...

@Fire Ant Farm

to do a spoiler/hide pictures

when you are creating a post there is a button to the right that says 'more' with a little arrow, click that and it will show you more editing tools
once they are showing, there is one that looks like a cartoon word bubble
click on the word bubble and a pop-up screen appears, then you can add photos

let me know if you need help, or you can pm them to me and i can do it for you

Thanks so much!!!!

Quote: MC has WICKED ninja waffle iron skills - she posted instructions on how to cook lots of things (the brownies keep sticking in my mind). Hope you find your waffle irons, MC!!!!!! (Oh, and I like your hard wood floors, too).


Quote: Thanks! Necropsy photos coming as soon as I go put the chickens to bed...

Quote: It was a blur of strange stuff - I don't remember meanness, but I was confused a lot of the time.

Off to put the chooks to bed...

- Ant Farm

 

[DuckGirl77]

Only at night

Really? I had no idea!

Congratulations! I feel the same way - I've gotten various teaching awards and such, but one of my favorites was when, at the end of the gastrointestinal module, the students presented me with a homemade scarf that one of them had made from felt to resemble the human GI tract. Best part is the little gallbladder hanging off in the middle...

So sorry to hear this.

I LOVE these photos! It's almost enough to make me want seramas. Almost.

I asked him some questions on email (including what to do re: the NNs in there with the CLs who started living with them at 4 weeks), and he emailed me back and confirmed my impression (so helpful!).


It's common to be exposed in most flocks (folks just don't know it), and incidence of clinical disease is very low. I could have an ALV-free flock if I destroyed EVERYTHING and started over with CERTIFIED ALV free eggs. But it seems that it's hard to find certified free sources, and most folks don't do that, and the REAL key is to prevent exposure to infection really early in life, during incubation or from a hatch mate (so, not hatch from affected birds with tumors and lots of virus - and not let those babies be with other babies if you do), because they end up tolerant, don't develop antibodies, and are likely to get tumors - in other words, babies from Paula and their hatch mates are all very high risk to not only get tumors but to be viremic for the rest of their lives if they don't. (So, important for those who hatch - this would be an advantage to hatching and brooding separately if you thought some eggs might be affected), So - probably culling the CL pullets in that group (once I work up to it).

On the other hand, birds exposed after about age 12 weeks are likely to just develop antibody, clear the virus, and not pass it to eggs per Merck Manual. (Same for older males mating and getting exposed). So, I am fortunate that I have kept groups separate as they have grown. The question is the two Naked Necks that have lived with the affected CLs since age 4 weeks. The way he put it, hopefully they were old enough to have developed an immune response, depending on their level of genetic resistance, in which case the infection would be shut down and eliminated. There is a risk there, but there is not a high risk of them infecting Tank in a way that would lead to him being ill, since he's so much older.

He also said that eventually, even if I did NOTHING, the disease would be reduced to a small percentage that would be an annoyance, nothing more.

I still have rearranged plans to figure out, but LOVE the Poultry Diagnostic Lab!!!!

Very smart. In the northwest mountains in Vietnam, we were in a van taking us to our hiking destination - driving on steep winding dirt roads on mountains WITHOUT the nice safety barrier like seen in the photo. Pretty sure our driver was high. Terrifying leg of the trip, I gotta say. Better to be in control of that mess yourself when you can...

Thanks so much!!!!

MC has WICKED ninja waffle iron skills - she posted instructions on how to cook lots of things (the brownies keep sticking in my mind). Hope you find your waffle irons, MC!!!!!! (Oh, and I like your hard wood floors, too).


Thanks! Necropsy photos coming as soon as I go put the chickens to bed...

It was a blur of strange stuff - I don't remember meanness, but I was confused a lot of the time.

Off to put the cooks to bed...

- Ant Farm

Very interesting about this disease ....... good for you for figuring all this out about the disease you're tackling!

I may even work up the courage to look at the necropsy photos.

 

[chicken hawk 33]

Predators better not dig up my taters!
I figured you were going to tell me how to incubate them Lol! :-D

what is tators.I mean the turtle eggs

 

[attimus]

No more than normal. Actually, I'm a bit off my game; don't have my best stuff tonight

just take a flash light out your porch and signal your buddies to come down and hook you up with the good stuff then

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: Pretty cloudy; not sure they'd see the light

 

[Chaos18]

Pretty cloudy; not sure they'd see the light

I saw the light once.

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: Pretty cloudy; not sure they'd see the light

Quote: At the end of the tunnel? That was a train coming