INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[DuckGirl77]

Don't mind me if I run to the craft store for white and black paint!!!

my torts are gonna love me!!!

 

[DwayneNLiz]

What??? Dalmatian spotted turtles!!!! Must have one....

YEP!!

She don't have this!

lol, and wouldnt! it has no spots!

Don't mind me if I run to the craft store for white and black paint!!!

my torts are gonna love me!!!

LOL

they are

(Northern Diamond-backed Terrapin)

 

[Chaos18]

Don't mind me if I run to the craft store for white and black paint!!!

my torts are gonna love me!!!

Make sure to post pics.

 

[lindalouly]

YEP!! lol, and wouldnt! it has no spots! LOL they are [COLOR=222222]
[COLOR=551A8B](Northern Diamond-backed Terrapin)[/COLOR]

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That is the coolest turtle I have ever seen!!!

 

[DwayneNLiz]

That is the coolest turtle I have ever seen!!!

she has 2, and keeps trying to give them to me

 

[lindalouly]

she has 2, and keeps trying to give them to me

They are the aquatic kind huh??? Too messy for me to handle right now. But if you had the time, that would be cool!

 

[TwoCrows]

Quote: You say your peace about the subject, and move on. Don't debate back and forth. If you want to help, do it calmly, speak your peace and continue posting on other things. If it drives you batty, don't answer and move on. Bickering back and forth doesn't make anyone learn anything. The asker of the question needs to come to their own conclusions from your answers. You can't make them see it your way. So answer if you wish, or not at all. Most of all, don't argue.

 

[kwhites634]

Quote: Runt, it's the same stuff. Many of these drugs are for all livestock being that many mammals and birds contract the same things.

Here's the thing...Since we are not vets but want to keep livestock, we have to take a lot of educated guesses with our chickens. I have bought many drugs for my birds thinking they would work and they didn't. It's trial and error many times. BUT...over time you learn how to diagnose things for yourself and your education gets better AT diagnosis and you can usually cure simple things that are common.

Chicks dies for lots of reasons, however the number one causes, other than predators, are Coccidiosis and improper temps in the brooder. Cocci is a protazoa present in the intestinal tract of all birds, rabbits, dogs, cattle, hosts of other creatures. Cocci blows on the wind, it is in all soil, it is everywhere. Chicks have not yet developed their immune systems to internally control these things and because the chicks are all stuffed into a very small space, the cocci is everywhere with the poop. (hence keeping your brooder as clean as possible to help prevent it) But sometimes they still do turn up with it. Older birds and sick birds are also very susceptable to cocci if their immune systems are low. However as chicks age, their bodies learn to develop immunity for the most part and as long as they never again become overwhelmed with it in their environment, healthy birds shouldn't contract it. Cocci symptoms are depression, listlessness, fluffed up feathers, eyes closed and standing up in the corner, not eating or drinking, losing weight fast, diarrhea and many times but not always, blood in the poop. If the poop is black or you see blood at all in it, they have cocci. A bird with cocci withdraws and will not eat or drink.

Another big killer...over heating and chilling. Chicks have not yet developed their internal thermostats..so they can not regulate their temps. If they get too hot, they die. If they get too cold, they die. Chilling and over heating is very common in brooders if you have never raised chicks before and can't read what they are telling you. Until you learn how to read chicks in the brooder, use a GOOD thermometer you KNOW is 100% accurate, keep it directly on the floor beneath the heat source so you know EXACTLY what temp it is in your brooder. And if you need help setting a brooder up, there are countless articles here on BYC and thousands of us that can give you points and tips.

Another biggy is being hatched in a dirty incubator. If you do NOT fumigate these things each time you incubate, you are brooding up all kinds of nasties. The chicks hatch with bacterial infections and boom...a week later they are dropping like flies

So...you need to figure out whether or not they are actually dying from Cocci, are they over heating, chilling or do they have some bacterial infection from hatch. This can be a guessing game sometimes and there is no guarantee the meds you buy will fix the issue IF you guessed wrong. We have all mis diagnosed at some point in our chicken keeping careers. BUT you get better at it as time passes. Oh well if you bought something and it didn't work. The WORST thing you can do is nothing...tiny innocent lives that YOU took on the responsibility to keep are dying. And it IS your responsibility, if you are going to keep a bird or animal, to do the right thing. So you need to do something.
Excellent explanation! @Sally Sunshine

 

[hippiestink]

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Avian vets with poultry experience are as rare as hen's teeth.

Did you also bone up on bacterial infections that have no cure or other respiratory issues that antibiotics can't help like viral, fungal, environmental, nutritional, protozoal.
Most things that afflict chickens can't be helped with antibiotics.

Did and none of the symptoms match for the incurable, fungal, environmental, or protozoal. Vet ruled out viral, and nutritional isn't relevant because I've been giving them a health mix that the vet recommended, supposed to have all the vitamins and nutrients necessary. Again, she's highly recommended and literally the best poultry vet in our part of the country, so I trust her when she says it's not a problem and a round of antibiotics will fix it.

 

[runt325]

Excellent explanation!   @Sally Sunshine

plz i want that corid but I don't have the money to get it and I can't get it from the neighbors so I need somebody to give me the corid because I don't want to loose my chicks