INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

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Maybe they know you.

If you lived near me, I'd give you mine. I haven't used it in years and it's getting close to its expiration date.

I can do without them. That would scare the bejeesus out of me.

I was on a wild one with my kids about 10 years ago at SeaWorld in Orlando. It's one of those that has cameras all along the ride and by the time the ride is over they have pictures of you ready to buy.
I think we bought one. The kids had huge smiles on their faces and mine was sheer terror.
It reminded me of that priceless commercial. "Hearing your dad scream like your little sister - priceless."

Not the same dosage. Medicated feed is a preventative dose, not a curative dose.

Wow. I never would have figured that one out.

Is that a 2 headed chicken?
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I tell people in my classes to teach their children to raise chickens. Because they'll never be able to afford drugs.

They can if they start out healthy, well hydrated, given dense shade and full ventilation. Still that is an iffy temperature. Adult chickens suffer at 100F and they're better at regulating their temperature than chicks.
I have chicks ranging from 1 to 2 weeks and I won't move them outside because we're having the second day of 100F.

There's a big construction company here that built a new office complex right next to the highway by the airport. It is supposed to use no energy. The design is energy efficient, has solar panels and a big windmill. FAA rules dictated that the windmill mast is only about 1/3 as high as it should be because it is so close to the airport.

I should go with electric but it is complicated with 8 housing units and surrounded with brush.

Looks like my place. It's weird to have breeds that hate human interaction come running every time they see you.

I think over 90 is too hot but there was someone on BYC in Australia about 6 months ago that had a hen successfully brood at over 100. She kept a fan blowing on the nest.


I think it is a really well trained border collie thing.

That's a bummer. I feel your pain. It seems like, the more I predator proof, the more chickens I lose.
I vote raccoon.
Hehe no there are 2 whole ones ;)
 
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They still look yummy
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Ohhh so tender.
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Not the lil' ones!
 
Quote: Runt, it's the same stuff. Many of these drugs are for all livestock being that many mammals and birds contract the same things.

Here's the thing...Since we are not vets but want to keep livestock, we have to take a lot of educated guesses with our chickens. I have bought many drugs for my birds thinking they would work and they didn't. It's trial and error many times. BUT...over time you learn how to diagnose things for yourself and your education gets better AT diagnosis and you can usually cure simple things that are common.

Chicks dies for lots of reasons, however the number one causes, other than predators, are Coccidiosis and improper temps in the brooder. Cocci is a protazoa present in the intestinal tract of all birds, rabbits, dogs, cattle, hosts of other creatures. Cocci blows on the wind, it is in all soil, it is everywhere. Chicks have not yet developed their immune systems to internally control these things and because the chicks are all stuffed into a very small space, the cocci is everywhere with the poop. (hence keeping your brooder as clean as possible to help prevent it) But sometimes they still do turn up with it. Older birds and sick birds are also very susceptable to cocci if their immune systems are low. However as chicks age, their bodies learn to develop immunity for the most part and as long as they never again become overwhelmed with it in their environment, healthy birds shouldn't contract it. Cocci symptoms are depression, listlessness, fluffed up feathers, eyes closed and standing up in the corner, not eating or drinking, losing weight fast, diarrhea and many times but not always, blood in the poop. If the poop is black or you see blood at all in it, they have cocci. A bird with cocci withdraws and will not eat or drink.

Another big killer...over heating and chilling. Chicks have not yet developed their internal thermostats..so they can not regulate their temps. If they get too hot, they die. If they get too cold, they die. Chilling and over heating is very common in brooders if you have never raised chicks before and can't read what they are telling you. Until you learn how to read chicks in the brooder, use a GOOD thermometer you KNOW is 100% accurate, keep it directly on the floor beneath the heat source so you know EXACTLY what temp it is in your brooder. And if you need help setting a brooder up, there are countless articles here on BYC and thousands of us that can give you points and tips.

Another biggy is being hatched in a dirty incubator. If you do NOT fumigate these things each time you incubate, you are brooding up all kinds of nasties. The chicks hatch with bacterial infections and boom...a week later they are dropping like flies

So...you need to figure out whether or not they are actually dying from Cocci, are they over heating, chilling or do they have some bacterial infection from hatch. This can be a guessing game sometimes and there is no guarantee the meds you buy will fix the issue IF you guessed wrong. We have all mis diagnosed at some point in our chicken keeping careers. BUT you get better at it as time passes. Oh well if you bought something and it didn't work. The WORST thing you can do is nothing...tiny innocent lives that YOU took on the responsibility to keep are dying. And it IS your responsibility, if you are going to keep a bird or animal, to do the right thing. So you need to do something.
Excellent post!

-Kathy
 
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