INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[kajira]

First let me say you have an adorable little girl, just beautiful!

Here is a link to NOTES from this thread NOTES LINKS & Informational POST LINKS - and the Hatching Eggs 101 article


a quick rundown as follows........

Questions & Answers for you!

where they shipped or your own eggs/local eggs? Shipped Eggs = Change Of Plans! post #53845

How old were the eggs at set?

How old is your flock?

They were stored and turned cool conditions?

Have you misted or washed the eggs?

COLLECTING, WASHING & EGG STORAGE

Washing, Cuticle, Sweating eggs post #63837
Digital Egg Scale - Accurate Humidity Measurement and Egg Sizing HERE
ZONES OF COLD INJURY fro EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT post #36213
PULLET EGGS??? post #41984 UNDER CONSTRUCTION
DOUBLE YOLKERS NOT suggested but they can hatch with assistance post #46649
BIRTH DEFECTS CONVERSATION AND INFO ON WORMERS!! post #25707 post #25706
Abstract DIPPING EGGS IN VITAMIN C post #33828
Pre-Incubation Warming of Chicken Eggs post #65812
Egg Quality: (Click to show)
Egg Quality:

• Egg defects and CORRECTIVE steps, detailed information Click HERE
• Optimum Egg Quality from your Flock: click HERE
• EGG Quality Click HERE

Fertility: (Click to show)
Fertility:

• IS IT FERTILE? Many images see post #43324
• Managing Fertility click HERE
• Several Reasons Why Your Hens May Stop Laying Eggs click HERE
• Winter Blues w/the Roos, why are my eggs infertile ugh starting post #1986
• Reproductive Physiology of the Hen post #40628
• HOW long does a ROO SPERM REMAIN IN HEN post #40628

• Polyspermy is typical in birds. Several sperm enter the germinal disc region post #40644
• Double fertilization spots? post #5991

Example 57 out of 126 were declared fertile.

Hatch Rates...

Example 50 of the 57 fertile eggs hatched the % hatch=

What bator are you using?

It has been fumigated/cleaned?

Cleaning Incubator and Equipment

FUMIGATION OF HATCHING EGGS AND EQUIPMENT post #48689
CLEAN INCUBATOR BEFORE AND AFTER USE post #48689
Turner or no turner?

TURNING ITS IMPORTANT

HOW and Why To TURN Eggs TURN MORE THAN 3 times a day!! post #22178
Turning until day 18 post #51410
UNDERSTANDING the CAM ~chorio-allantoic membrane post #22177
Incubated Air cell Upright or horizontal?

How do you have your thermos leveled in the bator?

Fan or no Fan? You know temps should be different for Fan vs still air models?

INCUBATION TEMPERATURES

READ TEMPS SECTION HERE: post #9068 Hatching Eggs 101
Incubators with fans and without fans need to run at DIFFERENT TEMPS! post #9068
ADD a LEGO to your dial of cheap styro bator to make minor adjustments! GENIUS post #38133
What is the maximum and minimum range of temp I can go before killing the chicks? post #12473
ZONES OF COLD INJURY fro EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT post #36213
HAVE A PLAN IN CASE YOU LOOSE ELECTRIC ITS THE SEASON! see post #522
What to do when you find a HIGH TEMPS in Bator post #7061
10/13 day old embryos begin to produce excess heat in the incubator post #27240
You calibrated thermo hygros and know not to rely on the one that came with the bator?

AGAIN...You have more than one thermo hygro and they had been calibrated?

You know that you should not use the vent holes to adjust humidity?

THERMOMETERS, HYGROMETERS & CALIBRATION

Celsius to Fahrenheit (ºC to ºF) conversion calculator click HERE
Thermo/hygro suggestions post #13998
Brinsea Incubator Thermometers click HERE
Strombergs Thermometers click HERE Hygrometers click HERE Digital Thermo/Hygros click Here
Hova-Bator GQF Incubator Thermometer / Hygrometer (Wet Bulb) 3018 post #32892
HEAT SINKS/ Stones/Pebbles ADD THEM TO STYRO! post #43903
Calibration is a MUST: HOW TO CALIBRATE post #9068
VENTILATION (OXYGEN)

Hatching at High Altitudes post #37908
O2 deprivation to day 10 of incubation followed by regular oxygen concentrations leads to stronger chicks post #33815
NEVER USE VENT holes as a means to Control HUMIDITY especially during HATCH DAYS!

You realize humidity is NOT a set number just a tool to get the correct weight loss in the egg?


You understand the majority of people for standard hatching eggs run the first 7 days 25-30% humidity (possibly 35%for shipped eggs) and adjusted from there for weight loss?

You understand that you can in fact candle every two days after day 7 to just keep a closer eye on weight loss so you dont need to make major changes later on?

Try to add water above in containers and not in the troughs until lockdown?

HUMIDITY Humidity is NOT a set number!

Its a tool to get the correct weight loss in the egg! post #7068 see Hatching Eggs 101

WHY do we need less humidity to get the best weight loss for colored hatching eggs during incubation? post #36320
KEEPING MOLD and BACTERIAL from growing in water WELLS during incubation post #1644
Humidity pumps DIY ETC post #79960
TIPS n TRICKS to raising humidity in incubators post #42512 Humidity pumps DIY ETC post #79960

AGAIN....You understand humidity is NOT a set number, most of us begin incubation 25-35% the first week and then adjust as needed per air cell growth/weight loss.

LOCKDOWN, DAY 18, CANDLES, PIPS, ZIPS

*IMPORTANT INFO= TIMELINES PIPS ZIPS!!! & MARKING AIR CELLS DAY 18, DRAW DOWN, INTERNAL PIP, EXTERNAL PIP, and ZIPPING post #35770

DAY 18 CANDLE IMAGES/VIDEOS: post #41176
FIVE VIDEOS show Draw Down and Internals post #44701
DAY 18 DIS CANDLES post #43401
Incubation CHICK FIRST AID KIT Supplies post #71640
911- INCUBATION & CHICK EMERGENCIES!

Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching - Click HERE
DUCK ASSISTING VIA CANDLES post #79130
NOPE she is not ready for you to assist yet! post #24835 now is she? post #24850
MALPOSITIONS /PIPS WRONG END are the first to pip and the last DIS after hatch post #19606
Malposition (pipped wrong end) chick most times will hatch! VIDEO post #22241
A WRONG END PIP IS BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL Pip! post #518454 VIDEO HATCHING post #54642
Casportspony Scovy malpositions assists post #43908
STUFF OOZING from pip begin post #19606
Images normal chick pip position post #19606
STUCK ZIPPING WHAT DO I DO? bottom of post #35770
YES a chick can chirp when its not pipped internally! post #20506
Heathers Call DUCK assist post #43902
It has a bump on its head! What The Heck Is A Vaulted Skull? post #46616

CHICKS Wet? Sticky? Stuck? Yellow Gel? What did I do Wrong? post #25379

Swollen abdomen? A WET chick? or infection post #24810
Eggtopsy possible Sticky chick post #35087
Eggs UNHATCHED at end of Incubation

Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching - Click HERE
I HAVE EGGS LEFT UNHATCHED NOW WHAT? post #25223
EGGTOPSYS & REMINDERS IF YOU WANT US TO HELP SEE post #2140 post #42654 post #44923 post #45013 post #54834
Pipped but dead post #47432
Normal hatching position and the six recognized malpositions Images: click here
Trouble Shooting Failures with Egg Incubation
http://msucares.com/poultry/reproductions/trouble.html
Hatchability Problem Analysis http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00008570/00001
Troubleshootting Incubation http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8127.pdf
This is also a great pdf with pics: paste link in browser search: CLICK HERE
Eggtopsy: What happened to my egg? https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/363717/eggtopsy-what-happened-to-my-egg-graphic-pictures
Effects of Nutrition on Infertility, Embryo Mortality and Hatchability
POOR INCUBATION RESULTS post #20480

What Went Wrong During Incubation could it be the flock? or Incubation? ​

post #1825
Signs of Deficiency in the Embryo & Poultry Vits Oz/Sal Diary Thread post #13719
Effects of nutrition on infertility, embryo mortality and hatchability. click Here
Some causes of EARLY CHICK MORTALITY post #17586 ~ http://www.poultry.uga.edu/extension/documents/French-Livability.pdf
Possible causes of deaths after day 18 post #57322
Can you get pics uploaded on BYC and understand that pics help us to help you?

Technical HELP ON BYC AP's/Threads

BYC Under age RULES reminder FOR ALL AGES! READ post #53361
HOW to POST PICs from a CELL PHONE / AP or browser see starting at post #1208
Updating avatar/profile picture HERE
Posting pictures onto the BYC Forum from laptop/desktop HERE
Posting pictures from Cell/mobile HERE
TAG HOW to keep typing after you @ someone! see:post #2469 post #1088
I've read through most of these topics (I'm autistic and slightly OCD - so by the time I posted here, I've sort of already read through a *lot* of information, but wanted to make sure I understood what I read? I'm at the "talking through stage" of education.... lol that's how I learn... read, clarify, "action" - if that makes sense!)

So, to be clear, am I answering the questions in your above post, or re-reading all the information, and then asking questions if I have any later?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I've read through most of these topics (I'm autistic and slightly OCD - so by the time I posted here, I've sort of already read through a *lot* of information, but wanted to make sure I understood what I read? I'm at the "talking through stage" of education.... lol that's how I learn... read, clarify, "action" - if that makes sense!)

So, to be clear, am I answering the questions in your above post, or re-reading all the information, and then asking questions if I have any later?

you are not answering, just a few extra tips you may have missed thats all. like the turning more than 3xs humidity and how it really works, calibrating and just a few others. this was made to help everyone in general for a quicker run down of what is really important and what most people mess up on.... although as you know there is much much more lol

 

[Sally Sunshine]

guess no one wants to chat and take my mind off ma worries today....

 

[Chaos18]

 

[campingshaws]

guess no one wants to chat and take my mind off ma worries today....  

Same! So we can chat with each other.

 

[Chaos18]

 

[campingshaws]

guess no one wants to chat and take my mind off ma worries today....  

Same! So we can chat with each other.

Sally, I've got three pullets from your eggs. Any suggestions on which roo (if any) to keep?

 

[DwayneNLiz]

I guess I'll post here - I'm using an incubator that my mother in law sent for my daughter. It's got "okay" reviews on amazon - meaning, people have had an okay hatch success rate with it, (more good than bad reviews, we'll put it that way.)
It's a small 10 egg incubator. We are going to try 4-5 eggs - we have 2/5 collected. (We only have 4 laying hens, and atm, only our RIR really lays daily. It's hit or miss on who usually lays a second or third egg, and we've never had 4 in one day. LOL)

Our cochin rooster will be the daddy.



One of the eggs is significantly larger than our 3 small hens, so i'm 100% sure it's from our RIR hen.
So we for sure have a "tiny" egg. (her name is tiny.) Then, my daughter's pretty sure our Cochin white hen, is one of our regular layers too, compared to white freckles (as seen in the above picture - thats white freckles) and little gray.



White fluff ^^



No idea what we are going to get from white/gray hens mixed with our cochin rooster. He's pretty though.

Anyways This is the incubator :

https://www.amazon.com/Yosoo-Chicke...d=1471366912&sr=8-2&keywords=10+egg+incubator

We will be giving the eggs a try. I know it's roughly a 21 day incubation period. The eggs will be put in with in 2-3 days of collection. I'm turning it on tonight to mess with the temps, so I have a couple days to play with it, before putting the eggs in there. I'm keeping the eggs collected in my bathroom in a plastic bowl until we have all the ones we want collected. We have tested the eggs we eat to make sure they are fertile (i.e. checking for the bullseye, and our rooster has more than done his job. LOL)

After that, I'll be writing an X and an O on them - and turning 3x a day to alternate sides at night.

I know day 18-19 we do a lock down and raise the humidity??? (theoretically? Not sure if it's possible with this incubator. If anyone has used it, any tips on it would be appreciated for better success.) and I've never candled an egg, or looked for air sacs before, so this, too will be a new project for us.

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Our eggs are light colored, light pink to light brown - so we shouldn't have too many troubles "seeing" through them at least.

Anyways - any tips on the incubator we are using to have the best success chance? My daughter wanted to participate in the egg bingo type threads to see if she could hatch other types of chickens down the road, but I won't try to win eggs for her, if we haven't' figured out how to successfully hatch an egg yet.

pg 1 has all sorts of info

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...n-chat-meet-new-friends-w-host-sally-sunshine

and when you get your thermo/hygro make sure to calibrate it
Calibration is a MUST: HOW TO CALIBRATE post #9068

Howdy

hello!!

Thanks liz.

You always have beautiful birds!

Good morning/afternoon all!! Thank you for all the comments about my worms - It didn't look like maggots or fly larvae to me. These were super skinny - thinner than a string of yarn, pure white and about half an inch long, and they were crawling in and out of holes in the sludge.... Any time I've seen maggots - they have been short, fat, white, wriggling things. They wiggle around, they don't crawl - like a real worm crawl.

This coop has been empty for almost 3 weeks. It's been HOT, and I have been busy and didn't clean it right away - the ones WITH chickens needed cleaning sooner.

I will be taking some fecal samples from the group of chickens that were in that coop.. These are chicks that had been outside 3 or 4 times - while I cleaned their coop. So they could have picked up something then. But, I'm thinking it's something else - I don't think they were from the chicks.


But for other news - the first 4H meeting I am going to is tonight! By signing up, I get to keep my chickens!!

Just curious, can anyone tell me if these are roosters? I have someone crowing in this pen, and I can't see who is doing the crowing. I suspect these...

awesome about the 4h, sorry about the worms, the way you describe sounds like tape worms but i have no idea -good luck!

What do I do when the natural environment we live in, is 40-60+ % humidity every day? And, how do you up the humidity if there's not an option for it on the incubator? Also, where does one find a calibrated one? Amazon? Our feed store doesn't sell anything besides the brooder thermo.

run it dry for the first 18 days, add no water, and if you need it lower add a bag of rice like MC said

Not a trick question...

-Kathy

after my read back i saw what your questions were lol

Thanks - I did a lot of reading, but I just wanted to double check what I "read" to make sure I understood it correctly. I guess I'll let you know how things go in about 10 days at our first 7 day candling. lol

Hi Kat, Hi Liz

Hi Miss Sunshine!!!

 

[kajira]

you are not answering, just a few extra tips you may have missed thats all. like the turning more than 3xs humidity and how it really works, calibrating and just a few others. this was made to help everyone in general for a quicker run down of what is really important and what most people mess up on.... although as you know there is much much more lol

Makes sense, thanks. I just want to make sure it's okay for me to "talk" through the stuff i've learned; on this thread too - in order to organize it, so I can actually apply what I read. I don't want to bother anyone by asking questions, or clarifying information. I just need to "paint a picture" with all the information I've read, like putting puzzle pieces together, in order to apply the data I accumulated. (I see in pictures, so until the picture is fully formed, I'm sort of left scratching my head, I promise I'm not as dumb as I seem! I just have a unique learning style haha)

As to the turning - 3x works best for us, because breakfast/lunch/dinner is easy to make sure they get turned the right amount of times to be even over night - with 4 kids, I can't guarantee, i'll have the ability, especially if I run errands in any given day, and our potential trips out of town for the day that I can do more than 3 in a 24 hour period. (we've never been gone over night, and I can justify waking up in the middle of the night to compensate for missing an egg-turning during the daytime.)

I am still figuring out how you do eggs in an incubator if you're gone for a day. Do you have suggestions on that? Does it matter WHEN you turn them if it's at least 3-5x in a 24 hour period? or, if I did 5x on a day that I'm here, would managing 3x in a 24 hour period be acceptable? My 2 year old has doctors appointments and it's 6+ hours of driving, plus the length of the doctors apt. He's a previous 24-weeker, so we see a lot of specialists still.

I'm trying to figure out how to manage the turning thing at this point, more than the other stuff. We also have 40-80% humidity in our area, and getting the humidity lower until the end, will be a struggle/key thing too. (though someone recommended rice in a sock, so I may try that.)

 

[Leave a LightOn]

guess no one wants to chat and take my mind off ma worries today....

Sally, come back!