Well , we are getting closer, Monday should have chicks, This time Haven't candled, only time I opened the incubator was if humidity got down to about 25%, so we added a bit of water then about 3 times was all. this figuring it out at high altitudes is driving me insane. We have a few chicks we got hatched though over the winter and the they are doing really good. It's what kept me trying, they will get a candle just before they go into lock down. I ever get this perfected at high altitudes in a LG forced air will be tickled