INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

[Fire Ant Farm]

Did you get the pictures of the egg in the turner?

Yes, but I thought you were saying that the direction you turned depended on the location of the "dip" in a saddle air cell (and you were saying that that was why it was so important to mark the air cell). But I couldn't figure out which direction you meant. (I will try to go find your post again, but it's a billion posts ago, so give me a minute...)

 

[LocalYokel]

Put it in the oven
With the door open

On a rag in a baking sheet, or similar

 

[LocalYokel]

Yes, but I thought you were saying that the direction you turned depended on the location of the "dip" in a saddle air cell (and you were saying that that was why it was so important to mark the air cell). But I couldn't figure out which direction you meant. (I will try to go find your post again, but it's a billion posts ago, so give me a minute...)

@Fire Ant Farm
Like this

@Fire Ant Farm
NOT like this

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

it is a space saver and rod protector for sure. ask him to send me a pic after he makes one please!

for the shipped do 3 x day

CONCLUSION ~ Shipped eggs
If an egg has a normal intact air cell PLEASE TREAT IT AS A NORMAL EGG!
PLEASE PLEASE READ THE TURNING SECTION of this article FIRST!

For rolling, detached or disrupted air cells
(cells no longer at fat end of the egg but like a bubble level on the long side, rolling or saddle shaped cells), you’ll need to change your hatch plan. These eggs need to sit and settle to room temp 12-24 hours NO TURNING, pointy end down in a Egg Carton to possibly reattach air cells.

For SETTING in the incubator......

If your air cell is ROLLING end to end do not turn for 36-48 hours of the first incubation hours to help air cell re-attach and in some cases are really bad loose air cell should not be turned either, if after 48 hours and you have embryo growth and the air cell is still completely loose, do not turn another 24 hours and recheck.

If air cells are saddle shaped but intact (meaning not jiggly) I put them in the turner and begin with the gentle turning or you can turn by hand in the carton by simply tilting side to side, see image below.

TREATMENT AT LOCKDOWN.......
I personally have found that any shipped egg that survives to day 18 lockdown has an awkward but re-attached air cell so I lay my eggs down for hatch. Please refer to day 18 lockdown for more information on why laying eggs for hatching after day 18 is the best way to go.

REMINDER~ Never Set COLD eggs in the incubator.



Below image are Eggs in A Carton with Bottoms cut out for Ventilation



Below image of Turning damaged air cell Shipped Eggs, just lean to opposite side.
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Yes yes yes yes - sorry, you guys don't have to keep quoting that, I've already read it all. I was trying to ask a different question that is not answered in this.

 

[country lovin]

love your new avy!!!    WINE COOLER  SHHHWEEET   and a box worked!! awesome  pictures please of this BATOR IN A BOX.... 

Thanks! She is my niece. (might as well be mine) and loves the chickens as much as I do. Here is the pic. Oddly enough it is the box it came in. Lol

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Ah - ok, thank you. So, you don't want to turn toward or away from the dip.

Thanks!!!!!

(Sorry I wasn't clearer in my question - I guess I'm more tired than I thought...)

- Ant Farm

Edit: Wait, I looked at it again - you DO want to turn toward and away form the dip. Right? Am I looking at the image correctly? I really must be tired... Definitely doing this in the morning...

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: Fine, I like your new avy.

thanks Mike

I may lose one of my chicks, my daughter spilled some water in the brooder and I didn't realized how much was spilled. So this chick was all wet on it's underside for at least a few hours, I've dried it off but it's basically just laying down and chirping with its eyes closed and it doesn't want to walk around. It walks like a chick does when it first hatches, all low to the ground and wobbly. Poor baby, I'll see how it is in the morning.

oh no try using the hair dryer on warm!! warm it and stimulate it

Quote:

O.K, sports fans,
I've had about all the fun I can handle for one day; heading off to la-la land, hopefully to dream about them 21 chicks .
Y'all have a good night. Behave yourselves, I'll catch ya on the other side
G'nite y'all

G'nite Kid

night whites!!! where is my hug? what I do???

Quote: hey Kristin you see this

CONCLUSION ~ Shipped eggs
If an egg has a normal intact air cell PLEASE TREAT IT AS A NORMAL EGG!
PLEASE PLEASE READ THE TURNING SECTION of this article FIRST!

For rolling, detached or disrupted air cells
(cells no longer at fat end of the egg but like a bubble level on the long side, rolling or saddle shaped cells), you’ll need to change your hatch plan. These eggs need to sit and settle to room temp 12-24 hours NO TURNING, pointy end down in a Egg Carton to possibly reattach air cells.

For SETTING in the incubator......

If your air cell is ROLLING end to end do not turn for 36-48 hours of the first incubation hours to help air cell re-attach and in some cases are really bad loose air cell should not be turned either, if after 48 hours and you have embryo growth and the air cell is still completely loose, do not turn another 24 hours and recheck.

If air cells are saddle shaped but intact (meaning not jiggly) I put them in the turner and begin with the gentle turning or you can turn by hand in the carton by simply tilting side to side, see image below.

TREATMENT AT LOCKDOWN.......
I personally have found that any shipped egg that survives to day 18 lockdown has an awkward but re-attached air cell so I lay my eggs down for hatch. Please refer to day 18 lockdown for more information on why laying eggs for hatching after day 18 is the best way to go.

REMINDER~ Never Set COLD eggs in the incubator.



Below image are Eggs in A Carton with Bottoms cut out for Ventilation



Below image of Turning damaged air cell Shipped Eggs, just lean to opposite side.
​

 

[LocalYokel]

Ah - ok, thank you. So, you don't want to turn toward or away from the dip. 

Thanks!!!!!

(Sorry I wasn't clearer in my question - I guess I'm more tired than I thought...)

- Ant Farm 

Edit: Wait, I looked at it again - you DO want to turn toward and away form the dip. Right? Am I looking at the image correctly? I really must be tired... Definitely doing this in the morning...

Basically I would say don't turn so that it rolls
You want it to not roll
If that makes sense
I can't explain it really
You can see what direction the turner,turns
Look at the pichers again

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

hey Kristin you see this

If air cells are saddle shaped but intact (meaning not jiggly) I put them in the turner and begin with the gentle turning or you can turn by hand in the carton by simply tilting side to side, see image below. ​

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Local answered my question. It had to do with the actual direction of turn vs. location of dip for a saddle shaped air cell, something he had mentioned that I saw while catching up. It's not mentioned in the shipped egg info.

- Ant Farm

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Night all