INCUBATING w/FRIENDS! w/Sally Sunshine Shipped Eggs No problem!

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Sit on your hands and think about something else.
I don't assist at all but when I did, back in the day, I waited about 36 hours after pip.


Ant Farm, I agree with paddler, give it some time, watch and only assist if it seems to be in distress.
It hurts to watch sometimes, but if they were meant to make it, they will.
As for the other one, flopping around is normal at first, it takes some time for them to find their balance, and climbing on the others and obstacles helps them in most cases.

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I think my hona pullet is broody. She was making broody noises when I went out today. I saw she had four eggs (didn't realize I was so far behind in collecting) but I left them because my hands weren't clean. I went back after dark and snapped this pic, pulled the eggs, then candled. No veins, but definitely darker yolks on three of them. So I added them to the bator. If she seems persistent, I might give them back out of curiosity.


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Oh, I hope she is!!




Good morning all. :frow
Congratulations to everyone with pips, zips, and new hatches!
-Banti
 
Actually, it wasn't bad. 'Bout the most I did was bring in a couple loads of wood & help bring in a few more.

Oh, and made sure that the 5 dogs my granddaughter showed up with didn't get into my birds. I definitely was not a happy camper. Fortunately, all the birds were contained & safe, although quite upset by a dog bouncing off the chain-link trying to gain access.  If one of those dogs, even one of the 9 week old pups, had gotten one of my birds, there'd have been dog splattered all over the landscape. I certainly let dear GD know that dogs on the loose around chickens is a recipe for disaster. Poor birds probably won't lay for a week.  Never ceases to amaze me the lack of common sense some "adults" show...GD's 23 or 24!  :barnie


Glad you had a good b'day!
Hauling wood on your bday ..... Not such a great gift ! Lol.
My bday is in May, and I usually end up tilling the garden and setting plants that day! :gig

As for the dog issue, my youngest son, 28, seems to have the same thought process as your GD, he brought his 6 month old boxer out a few years ago, went straight at the flock (free range) and my Roo got trampled into the mud before he could control the dog.
The poor Roo was literally stuck in the mud and turf when I got to it. He survived, but the dog has been leash only ever since when he visits.
 
One of the nicest February days in memory. It's already 51 F at 7AM and going up to 73. It hit 77 yesterday.
I only remember one other time that it hit 70 in February. It was almost 30 years ago. My wife and I went canoeing that day. We had to beg an outfitter to haul us upstream in the middle of his winter vacation.
Believe it or not, being the avid fisherman that I am, I've never set foot in a canoe. Been on my share of bass boats, rowboats, and such, even a belly boat (float tube) but never a canoe. If I ever get in one, it'll be one with a wide, flat bottom, not one that'll flip if I blink at the wrong time; I wouldn't care to take an unplanned soaking, and I swim like an anchor. I've capsized one boat; don't want to repeat the experience.
 
I have an update for my current batches of eggs. Of the 8 in the first set, I pulled the one quitter (found day 7 but left it in JIC) but the other 7 are doing great (including the cracked one). Today is day 16 for them (candled yesterday... a day late
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Of the 33 in the second batch, I pulled one clear. Today is day 9 for them and they got candled yesterday on day 8 (again... a day late
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Upgrades to the bator this round include:
Better fan placement
Replaced a loud fan
Moved the thermocouple sensor for the thermostat closer to the bulb (reduced the amount of time the light stays on and reduced the amount of temperature fluctuation to about .7*)
Made a baffle to go in front of the main heating bulb to block radiant heat
Installed auto-turner
Reduced the size (surface area) of the pre-lockdown water well to lower humidity during the early part of incubation (Last batch my air cells were too small)

Will be making a coolerbator hatcher in the next day (cutting it a little close but it took forever for my 2nd thermostat to get here)

Ok that concludes my update.

Been awhile since I got to talk to you @Sally Sunshine . I hope you are doing well
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Glad you had a good b'day!
Hauling wood on your bday ..... Not such a great gift ! Lol.
My bday is in May, and I usually end up tilling the garden and setting plants that day!
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As for the dog issue, my youngest son, 28, seems to have the same thought process as your GD, he brought his 6 month old boxer out a few years ago, went straight at the flock (free range) and my Roo got trampled into the mud before he could control the dog.
The poor Roo was literally stuck in the mud and turf when I got to it. He survived, but the dog has been leash only ever since when he visits.
I can imagine! If mine had been free-ranging, which they would have been were it not for the fact that I have a new rooster that I want to be familiar with the area before I turn him out with his lady friends, and 5 dogs who probably had never even seen a chicken before suddenly started after them, I'd have one very unhappy granddaughter today.
 
Good morning everyone!!!! Look what I found in my incubator this morning - the world's newest little Aloha Naked Neck: Another one (the one with the original pip) is zipping. Oh goodness, I have so many people to thank (gets out folded piece of paper and hopes she doesn't get cut off by the orchestra)... In all seriousness: First and foremost, @Sally Sunshine for her excellent shipped egg information, such that I'm getting live birds hatching from this mess: @LocalYokel for patiently helping me figure out the direction I should turn the saddled air cells (with pictures!!!) @Ur-ur-ur-urrr for helping me stop the too-fast growth of their air cells (along with Sally, of course), and also confirming that the increased humidity was doing its job and to leave it at 50% until hatch @gotro17 for not only giving me so much hope for my shipped eggs with crazy air cells, but also pointing out that when hatching upright, it's good to alternate spaces in the carton to give the babies a place to "flop" out into (which I totally would not have thought of). This baby is happily moving from empty cup to empty cup. I set them up like this based on your photo/info: Everyone who has posted info about successful hatches that just run a little late. (For that matter, everyone who has posted anything - I've learned from it all!) And FINALLY, we circle back to Sally, where I specifically thank her for the first part of her "assisted hatch" article where she puts in big, red, bold letters: [COLOR=FF0000]DO NOT RUSH THE HATCH![/COLOR] (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, but thank you all!!!!) I'm off to go look at the cutie again and see how the zipping is going. - Ant Farm
:hugs Aloha NN sounds cool!
 
Someone asked about why their [COLOR=FF0000]embryos quit after lockdown[/COLOR].

I would make sure the ventilation was sufficient and what I believe Saris said, pay special attention to breeder nutrition.

Here's a rundown of all possible causes of deaths after day 18. You'll have to look at your process and see what may apply to your situation. The ones in black wouldn't apply since you have a problem with multiple breeds, breeders and hatches.

[COLOR=0000FF]Incubator temperature, humidity, turning or ventilation is improper.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=0000FF]Hatcher temperature, humidity or ventilation is improper.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=0000FF]Contamination - especially from molds.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=0000FF]Fumigation too severe or too long.[/COLOR]
Eggs chilled during transfer to hatcher or transferred too late.
Cracked shell.
[COLOR=0000FF]Nutritional deficiencies. i.e. Vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin E, vitamin K, vitamin B[SUB]12,[/SUB] riboflavin, biotin, thiamin, folic acid, pantothenic acid, lineolic acid, selenium, calcium, phosphorus, manganese.[/COLOR]
Embryo malpositioned
Embryo development accident (failure to switch to lung respiration)
Heredity (lethal genes, chromosome abnormalities)
Twinning
[COLOR=0000FF]Hatcher opened too much during pipping and hatching.[/COLOR]
Poor shell quality
[COLOR=0000FF]Breeder diseases.[/COLOR]

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Especially on the ventilation, chilling and opening the hatcher too much.
At least these are ones we can correct/stop

You always have awesome posts!
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